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11-06-2009, 11:34 PM
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I have a 05 wildfire 250 qac i think thats wat it is. mine wont start either.When i try to start it it sounds like the gears from the starter to the other gears are just spinning. I got mad and flippied it the one day and ever since theen its been like this. Any help would be appreciated
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06-03-2010, 08:33 PM
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ok guys im sorry i bought a china quad 250cc ssr the wireharness i gone it has 2 groups of wires coming from the stater one has pink-blk/red-blu/white-yellow-grn/white this is a big white plug the other is pink-yellow/red-blue/red-green/blk-green/red-yello i believe this is my cdi plug then theres a regulator with red-pink-yellow-green wires and finally the kill/run start button left grip has brown-green-blue/white-blk-yellow/red ok this is all i wanna run no nothin can anyone tell me how to derect wire this or even have a diagram thanx too much
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06-04-2010, 12:19 AM
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ok guys im sorry i bought a china quad 250cc ssr the wireharness i gone it has 2 groups of wires coming from the stater one has pink-blk/red-blu/white-yellow-grn/white this is a big white plug the other is pink-yellow/red-blue/red-green/blk-green/red-yello i believe this is my cdi plug then theres a regulator with red-pink-yellow-green wires and finally the kill/run start button left grip has brown-green-blue/white-blk-yellow/red ok this is all i wanna run no nothin can anyone tell me how to derect wire this or even have a diagram thanx too much
Here are a couple diagrams and pics to get you started:
The wiring diagram shows a VBike with the transmission gear indicator wires that match your wires almost exactly (the ones you think go to the CDI).
This picture show a typical 250cc CDI:
Your CDI will need to be wired more like this: [note the wires colors match your other connector from the stator:
And there is the regulator wiring (different from all of the above), and the starter/solenoid wiring....
It can be done, but it is going to take a lot of work. If you decide to proceed I would break it up into small steps, and get one system working at a time:
1) Get the starter to crank the engine with a start button,
2) Get Spark at the spark plug
3) Get the kill circuitry working
4) Get the battery charge circuitry working.
5) Attack any other ancillary problems like lighting, brake switches, etc.
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07-09-2010, 11:07 PM
hey we have a chinese four wheeler we bought for our son on the side it says its a tank 110cc it ran fine when we bought it a week ago it is a 3 speed with reverse it did not pull very well so we are going to have to replace the clutch but we rode it around the yard and pulled it in building and shut it off now it wont start back we have tryed everything it makes no noise or nothing when you push the switch to start it we were told it was a starter lockout safety switch that has went bad and we could bypass it and it would be fine well our problem is we have no idea where this is or what it looks like or how to go about bypassing it any help would be greatly app....my nine year old son is very heart broke and my husband is very aggravated with it and ready to burn it lol please help
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07-09-2010, 11:47 PM
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...and shut it off now it wont start back we have tryed everything it makes no noise or nothing when you push the switch to start it we were told it was a starter lockout safety switch that has went bad and we could bypass it and it would be fine well our problem is we have no idea where this is or what it looks like or how to go about bypassing it any help would be greatly app....
Turn on the ignition, and apply the brake. Does the brake light light up? If not, the quad won't start. Some 110cc quads don't have brake lights. If yours doesn't then report back, find yourself a meter, and we'll go a different route.
See if you can play around with the brake light switch to get the brake light to light up. Is your rear brake foot operated or handlebar activated? Foot brakes are adjustable.
You can bypass brake switches, but do you really want to do that? Would you bypass the similar interlock on your automatic tranmission car that keeps you from starting up in "Drive"?
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Hi Chris,
What kind of quad? Is it Chinese? Do you know the engine size?
Does your CDI look like this:
The following assumes the above picture is correct. If it isn't then say so and we will have to back track a bit. If I don't forge ahead on assumptions then we'll spend too much time waiting for each other to respond to every detail. I hope that makes sense.
The first thing to check is whether you have a DC powered CDI (I'm suspecting this). Unplug the CDI, turn on the ignition switch and measure the DC voltage on the AC Ignition Power pin in the wiring harness to ground in the above picture. If it reads 12 volts DC then you have a DC powered CDI. And if this is true then obviously it isn't an AC ignition power pin, but 2 connector 6 pin DC powered and AC powered CDI's look the same (except the DC powered ones are usually slightly bigger).
On DC powered CDI's the only stator connection that has anything to do with ignition is the Yellow/Blue wire. It would be the trigger pulse signal that tells the CDI when to fire the spark plug. The yellow and white wires would be the battery charge winding in the stator, and green is ground. Please make sure you didn't miss a black/red wire coming from the stator. That would change everything. Not a big deal, but it points out a different course of action then the one we're now on.
Concentrate on determining if the CDI looks like the picture above, and whether it is DC powered first. We can go from there.
If I'm going too fast tell me and I'll slow down. But you will need a voltmeter to figure this out. So get one ready...
What kind of quad? Is it Chinese? Do you know the engine size?
Does your CDI look like this:
The following assumes the above picture is correct. If it isn't then say so and we will have to back track a bit. If I don't forge ahead on assumptions then we'll spend too much time waiting for each other to respond to every detail. I hope that makes sense.
The first thing to check is whether you have a DC powered CDI (I'm suspecting this). Unplug the CDI, turn on the ignition switch and measure the DC voltage on the AC Ignition Power pin in the wiring harness to ground in the above picture. If it reads 12 volts DC then you have a DC powered CDI. And if this is true then obviously it isn't an AC ignition power pin, but 2 connector 6 pin DC powered and AC powered CDI's look the same (except the DC powered ones are usually slightly bigger).
On DC powered CDI's the only stator connection that has anything to do with ignition is the Yellow/Blue wire. It would be the trigger pulse signal that tells the CDI when to fire the spark plug. The yellow and white wires would be the battery charge winding in the stator, and green is ground. Please make sure you didn't miss a black/red wire coming from the stator. That would change everything. Not a big deal, but it points out a different course of action then the one we're now on.
Concentrate on determining if the CDI looks like the picture above, and whether it is DC powered first. We can go from there.
If I'm going too fast tell me and I'll slow down. But you will need a voltmeter to figure this out. So get one ready...