<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: 19TankHead60



Following your advice I'm leaning toward this one http://www.savagearms.com/116fhsak.htm. $600 at Wally World. Can you help any with a scope? My co-worker was saying the scope in the package I had linked in the previous post may not be powerful enough. Again, haven't been doing any research on scopes so I better start. Thanks for any help.</end quote></div>

I'd stay away from any "package" deal that comes with a scope. It will likely be a crap scope and not worth the money.

The Model 116FHSAK looks like a decent rifle but be aware that it has a muzzle brake. This will make it painfully loud both for you and anyone hunting with you. Hunting guides I've talked to HATE them. It cuts recoil but it drastically increases noise. It will damage hearing unless you're wearing ear protection.

I suppose some more basic questions need to be asked about both the rifle and scope.

What is it that you intend to do with the rifle?
What do you intend to hunt?
Where are you going to be hunting?
What ranges will you be likely be shooting?

It's difficult to give a helpful suggestion about scope or even rifle without a little more detail about what you want to do with it.

 

I'd like to have acces to this article http://www.gun-tests.com/issue...3/features/5406-1.html to see why they rated them the way they did. I was looking at Browning too cause they have so many choices in the 338 win mag.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: CaptainQuint

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: 19TankHead60







Following your advice I'm leaning toward this one http://www.savagearms.com/116fhsak.htm. $600 at Wally World. Can you help any with a scope? My co-worker was saying the scope in the package I had linked in the previous post may not be powerful enough. Again, haven't been doing any research on scopes so I better start. Thanks for any help.</end quote></div>



I'd stay away from any "package" deal that comes with a scope. It will likely be a crap scope and not worth the money.



The Model 116FHSAK looks like a decent rifle but be aware that it has a muzzle brake. This will make it painfully loud both for you and anyone hunting with you. Hunting guides I've talked to HATE them. It cuts recoil but it drastically increases noise. It will damage hearing unless you're wearing ear protection.



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I didn't know it has a patented adjustable muzzle brake that can be open or closed. Thanks for the heads up. I was reading where a 338 win mag w/ a muzzle brake produces 135db. OUCH! Not for sound but I'm gonna go w/ the 300 win mag anyways. I don't see any disadvantages to doin that.

 

I own a winchester 30-06 with a 3 9 50 scope and i am very pleased it is acurate up to 350 yards well atleast that is the furthest distance i can find to shot around where i live i dropped a male bear at 350 with it it was 260 pounds

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: shreker08

I own a winchester 30-06 with a 3 9 50 scope and i am very pleased it is acurate up to 350 yards well atleast that is the furthest distance i can find to shot around where i live i dropped a male bear at 350 with it it was 260 pounds</end quote></div> Dam good shootin! With a 30-06!....what weight bullet were you using? Is the Winchester a classic or a push feed?

 

Its a bolt action holds five rounds it is a winchester with 180 grain springfield core-lokt bullets, I try to be as accurate as i can because you never know when the oppurtunity will come

 

I also shot a nice 4 point buck two years ago with the same gun but this time it was only 20 yards and the dear ran 200 i thought that was odd

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: shreker08

I also shot a nice 4 point buck two years ago with the same gun but this time it was only 20 yards and the dear ran 200 i thought that was odd</end quote></div> Not odd if your bullet wasn't placed in a killing shot. I usually try for a neck shot. I have had many deer drop in their tracks. What I mean't about your rifle,does it have a push feed or claw foot extractor? I am a Winchester man,and like to know what you have. Both are good rifles,but the claw foot is more in demand.

 

SCREW it! I'm gonna do a 338 win mag. Somebody posted that a 300 mag was just a hopped up 30-06. You could do a 300 mag with a heavy 30-06. When I look at the calibers the 300 mag is a step above the 30-06. I can always get a smaller caliber later. There's no way I'm gonna get 1 rifle to do it all. I sure a 338 win mag will handle all my big game needs.

 

So will a 300 win mag, that has the best ballistics