the mojave has a bigger displacement of 249cc, the honda only has 229cc, honda wieghts 349 lbs the kawi wieghts 379 lbs. the honda says it has a automatic clutch, not sure what that means, kawa says nothing about a clutch. what would be a longer lasting, better built quad. not looking for top speed but more important is reliability. what would you guys suggest, oh and the price for the kawi is $ 4,099 and the honda is $3,899.

 

ok first we didn't need all that info most of us should know but thanks let me some it up if your a newbie to atvs i would advise u to get the 250ex its very reliable if your not a newbie get a mojave a mojave is a manual clutch they r hard to start off on but they get easier and have a kick starter and they drive on a chain it is faster than a 250ex a 250ex is an auto clutch meaning all you have to do is shift and is electric start meaning u press a button to start and they drive on a shaft less Maintenance 250exs' r quite slow for a sport atv but the better overall better atv is the 250ex its very reliable and should last u a while i hoped i helped some[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

look, that mojave is not in the same universe for reliability if thats what your after. the 250ex and the recon are probly most durable atvs ever made. there is just nothing to them. i have a 02 250ex (see pics) and i don't ride it unless i'm on two wheels. i have popped that shifter everytime i have ridden it since the day i bought it. i have turned it tit side up 2 times in deep water and completely waterlogged the engine. i have rolled it twice (on my second handlebars). if you buy the 250ex and put $300 in it, pipe, jet, filter, it will out perform that mojave hands down. also its freakin' shaft drive, same brakes as the 400ex on front, reverse gear. in 10 minutes you can have it down to motor and chassis. if that is the type of bike you want, the honda is the way to go.

 

if you can work a clutch get a mojave

 

any way the 250ex is an over priced lawn mower engine[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

 

yeah, you need to listen to "yamwarrior101". i'm sure he has lots of experience with both bikes. just do a little research on past shootouts and forum posts and you'll find "yamwarrior101" is spot on. kawi mojave? get real dude. fartman wants RELIABILITY. call the atv rental places at pismo and ask them how many mojaves as opposed to 250ex's they have on hand. man this isn't even close.

 

i have rode a mojave and a 250ex, my friend has a 250ex and he hates it if you don't mind a clutch and kick start get a mojave a 250ex is a good quad to hop on and have fun but you'll get bored of it.O and also CatsMeow look in the new issue of atv rider and they have 250ex last!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] and a mojave 2nd!! but if you don't want a clutch get a Z250 much better than a 250ex but practicly the same thing [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

 

ok well since the honda has a better rep im leaning that way, but i dont like the idea of autoshift. i like to control the trans, and dont like a push start. i have been riding for a few years and learned to ride on a kick start and manual trans. so what would you guys advise for a kick start-manual trans with good realiability. i would think with the fancy trans and push start theres more things to break.

 

do wou want a kick start and a clutch ifso get the mojave

 

well if it was up to me i'd skip both of em and get a blaster [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] about the same seat height but is also 1000$ cheaper... it all depends what you do