This is what someone said on a different site.

"QUOTE"
"My guy here in Las vegas just called me and said....

Detuned CRF Motor
Kick ONLY!!!
No Reverse
Fully Adjustable front and rear
Steel frame-alluminum subframe
39mm carb like YFZ
The pic we have all seen is the real quad, just with aftermarket stuff on it
Full on race quad from Honda (Remember the R in the 450R)
42-46HP
335LBS"
2004 Model avaliable near Christmas Not sure of date but in December."

 

If Honda put an old detuned motor in a old 400ex frame. Then I believe Honda has dropped the ball on this one. Yamaha may have finally won the battle.

 

WTF u talking about an old detuned motor? the CRF motor is state of the art. Great info 250r4life!!

 

Honda is basically taking 2 year old race technology and putting new plastic on it. Meaning how many people have already put 450crf's into a 400ex frame. Oh I say about couple hundred.

 

It's a new frame on this quad, it's not a 400ex frame.

 

Personally, as a desert rider I would prefer a 400EXish frame to a full bred MX/trail frame like the YFZ. With a few mods, the 250R/400EX frame is a good desert racer. I don't MX, and I already have a Z which is the ultimate trail bike, so a frame that would easily adapt to desert riding would be my preference. A 650EX is more than I hope for at this point.

 

2 year old tech old ??[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] Dude u dont know ur stuff look at how old the other motors in quads are 1980's motors (banshee, 400ex) and the raptor motor has been around for a while 2.... The only so called "new" motor is the Predators motor, and it doesnt impress me at all...

 

yeah..a 500cc motor that keeps up DAMN well to a 660 motor..doesnt impress me either...[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

Its kind of funny that the 500cc motor cant keep up with a 450 [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img], j/k

 

All I am saying people are pissing there pants for a unit that was built over two years ago. Tell me the honda frame is better than a laeger or roll frame with the crf motor(now de-tuned). To my knowledge Mr. Gust was not riding a honda this year to win the pro-production. He was aboard a extremely fast suzuki.