Here is the layout:

2003 Yama Grizzly 660 - $6100 + Tax.
2003 Kawa P650 - $6000 + Tax.
2003 Honda Rincon 650 - $6400+$400(destination)+$160 Prep fee (I think this is just some kind of racket from dealer) + Tax!
2003 Yama Kodiak 450 - $5500 + Tax. (might go lower, maybe $5250...)

I know that Yamaha is probably number one is this field, however Honda acts like their crap does not stink and asks for more money for a reason, I guess. I rode all 4 units the other day and Rincon felt like it has some torque, but very little horse power, maybe because the price tag was attached and made it way too heavy[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] It also smoked up the whole backyard of the dealer, probably exhaust burning off, or motor burning up. I liked the looks of Honda so far and that is all.

I liked Grizz, it has killer power and even popped the wheel on me in 4x2 mode, but independent rear made it feel little swingy and too tall compared to Kawa P700.

KawaP650 was nicely low and stable and power was as good as the Grizzly, or better, but now that read all these horror stories about bad camshafts and oil pumps, I am not sure, and it is not much of a looker either.

So, what would you do and why please? I would appreciate any feedback, because besides owning Yamaha Timbewolf 250 4x4 before I know little about the rest of the brands.

 

grizzly

 

Grizzly

 

Rincon, dont buy it from the dealer where you got that price. He is a con artist.

 

It did feel like severe pounding in the ***, all these extra fees.
Whay do you think Rincon is better?

I appreciate your replies with single word suggestions, but maybe a sentense or two, why Grizzly, or Rincon if you have a minute to spare[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Thanks
my

 

I like the reliability of Honda. The Rincon is their biggest and baddest. The Grizzly is a close second. I dont hear very much about the Kawasaki in these threads. What I have read isnt exactly positive. This is my choice out of the ones you listed. Personally, I think they are over priced, and overpowered. I think a 400cc atv is plenty of power for most riding. Smaller engine means less weight. Less weight means more stability. I just got a Bombardier outlander for my wife and love it. It comes as a 330 or 400. You wont find a softer suspension. And a 3 year warranty.

 

honda is a pretty reliable maker, but you can get a cheaper price than that, other than that, i would go for either the grizzly, or the rincon. They both ride nice, but its up to you.

 

I actually just test drove Z400 white one! It is the bomb! I loved the clutch and motorcycle like engine / transmission[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] I would buy one in no time, but my wife would be so dead on one of those.

 

Well, I officially accept congratulations now! I am now a proud owner of 2003 Grizzly 660 (Beige Puke color Edition). This was their last unit and after much unpleasant deliberation brand new Grizzy became mine for $6100 + Tax 7.5%.
Now tell me if this ok deal please?

 

Sweet deal. My buddy is trying to buy one. $6800 is the best he found. He wants the blue one and they seem to be rare.