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Old Jun 26, 2000 | 11:08 AM
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Heres a wacky idea. For people with limited slips that drive in situations where one front tire is in the air a lot.

There are two brake handles on the handlebars, one for the rear and one for the front. Why not turn both handles into front brakes? One for the left and one for the right. That way, if your front right tire is in the air, you could squeeze the right brake and send the power to the left tire which needs the traction.

Just another crazy idea from your pal Uncle Fester!
 
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Old Jun 26, 2000 | 11:50 AM
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Hahahahah~!
 
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Old Jun 26, 2000 | 12:05 PM
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Well I don't think that's funny. We use to do that with VW dune buggies, a separate emergency brake handle for each side rear brake. It works awesome.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2000 | 12:38 PM
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I wasnt laughing at the Idea, I was laughing at "your crazy ol pal uncle fester" LOL.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2000 | 12:48 PM
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Unclefester, the Product Liability Defense Attorneys just ran, screaming, from the room!

Your idea isn't wacky at all, only--the least common denominator of ATV operator cannot be trusted to use selected braking safely in all circumstances, and no human being can respond quickly enough to use the capability safely at speed.

Slow-moving farm tractors often come equipped with split brakes, allowing the operator to brake a spinning wheel and transfer torque to one with traction.

In fact, the "traction control" systems on modern automobiles also perform the exact function you speak of--selectively braking a spinning wheel to bias torque to its mate on the other side of the differential--however, the traction control systems have the lightning speed of a computer and the capability of ultra-rapid pulsing of brake application and release with constant sensor feedback.

Your idea is good; it just needs high-speed processing and application capability for safe use with an ATV or automobile.

Tree Farmer

P.S. I've discussed the "ABS" concept of traction control previously on the Forum, offending one or more readers. To them, flame me if you must; however, no offense intended.

T.F.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2000 | 01:06 PM
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What if you just do not touch the hand leavers at speed and only use the back brakes and down shift to slow down which is plenty ,we are not talking about a Viper here.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2000 | 01:13 PM
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Safe Smafe!
It wouldn't be the first time I crashed! LOL

Yeah, theres no way a manufacturer would do this. I meant for someone to do it themselves.
I agree, most of the time you wouldn't be quick enough to utilize this system. I was thinking more of situations where your pretty much stopped like hung up on a rock or stump and one tire is spinning in the air. Rather than having to get off and push, sending power to the other tire might get you out of trouble. Plus if you were good enough, it might make for some fun times on snow and ice, Go fast, lock one front tire, turn hard and crank the throttle! Spin city boys, spin city!
Me thinks I should go buy a Honda 300 and give this a whirl. (pun intended) he he
 
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Old Jun 26, 2000 | 02:30 PM
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Tim, your Sportsman has no differential at all anywhere, so the discussion doesn't apply to Polarises.

You're correct; at walking or stalling speeds, selective brake application poses no unacceptable safety threat. Tractors so-equipped often have two separate left and right brake pedals that can be either locked together for uniform application of braking or split for totally separate left-right application.

MAX6X6, where are you?! The "skid-steer" system on some 6X6's and fully-tracked vehicles works somewhat like unclefester's proposed system.

Tree Farmer
 
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Old Jun 26, 2000 | 02:43 PM
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I just think it's a good idea for a limited slip bike.I ride a old Ford 9N tractor around and we always play with the two brakes to get out of some sticky situations.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2000 | 03:22 PM
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LOL Your a funny guy.
 
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