Can anybody give me a website for Denton or PEP steering dampeners? Also, input on which one you prefer would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!!

 

PEP - No website I am aware of, some say it is prone to blowing seals due to it's close proximity to the exhaust

Denton - www.dentonracing.com - just a price list, no product descriptions... I have one (on the suggestion of others), there are geometry problems with the mounting and it suffers from problems inherent to the telescopic dampers (PEP, Denton, Graydon, Muscle, etc).

Graydon - www.graydonproline.com I would probably recommend this if a person was to buy a telescopic damper, it solves the geometry problems of the Denton, still suffers the design inherent of the telescopic damper.

Scotts - www.scottsperformance.com the ultimate in steering dampers, expect to pay about $400

WER - www.werproducts.com probably not as good as Scotts, but better than the telescopic dampers.

 

Thanks for the info! What are the problems that you refer to with the telescopics? Considering the price difference between the Denton or PEP and the Scotts, are you satisfied with the Denton?

 

I have a Denton dampener for my Banshee. I really like it, thinks it helps a ton while racing.

But when I was at the GNC race in Mt Morris, I saw a dampener that was different. Travis Spader had a yellow dampener that attached to the side of the frame. Does anyone know what kind this is and any information about it?

I believe that the dampener attached to a part of the frame (aftermarket of course) by the left front wheel. The mounting bracket appeared to be part of the frame from the aftermarket company. I think Spader rides a roll design chassis?

 

The telescopics dampen both to and from center, the damping exists everywhere, basically a shock absorber that slows steering action.

The Scotts and WER are of different design. They damp away from center, but not toward center. The Scotts is easily adjustible on the fly and has separate low speed and high speed adjustments (high and low speed referring to steering deflection speed, not ground speed).

The problem I have with the Denton is the mounting and lack of adjustibility. The mounting causes the geometry to be incorrect and damping forces to differ from left to right. Of course this will be different for different model bikes, but on the 400EX, it's just not right. If a person was to get a telescopic, I'd go with a Graydon for this reason. Graydon's have adjustible mounting.

Performance wise the Denton works, it's better than not having one at all, but you get what you pay for. If I had it to do again, I'd definitely take a serious look at the Scotts and WER. What's $400 if it even saves you from one crash over it's lifetime?

 

Don't know, but it's probably a WER from what you explain... Scotts mount on top of the steering stem. Check out the websites I posted.

 

I hate to sound ignorant, but tell me if this is right. The purpose of these are to decrease the twist on the bars resulting from contact with a rut, rock, or anything else that might jerk the bars from your hands. Now, I can understand how a shock absorber would lessen the jolt, but wouldn't it at the same time, increase the difficulty of normal steering? Or, does it have a small effect until it is needed? I guess what I am asking is, how much, if any effect, do the telescopic ones have on back-to-center difficulty? It doesn't make any sense to me to have to have more resistance all of the time. You can probably tell that I am leaning toward the Denton or Graydon. Although I know the Scott is the way to go, I just can't justify $400 for the type and amount of riding I do.

 

I could not get the picture on the web, so I emailed it to you. On the picture you can see the yellow dampener by the left wheel. The spot it attaches to on the frame is not on my stock 250r frame.

I believe I have seen other aftermarket frames that have this extra part of the frame sticking out. I was wondering if this is part of the “rolling chassis” that companies produce.

I will say this, it is a beefy looking dampener when in person. Better than my Denton.

 

Yes, it does have an affect on normal steering, dependant upon how you have it adjusted.

They work like a good shock absorber, at low speeds there is little damping, at higher speeds, lots of damping. The theory is to damp the high speed hits and allow low speed movements (turning).

The telescopic types are better than having no damping at all, I am faster and feel safer at speed on my bike than my buddy's EX with no damper.

Check into the WER, I believe it may be a happy median between the price of the Scotts and the price of the telescopic units....

Lasher,

I don't know what kind of unit that is on Spader's bike, maybe BPace will see this thread and be able to tell us. It appears to be a Damper rod, shock absorber type from the picture, where as the WER and Scotts are rotary hydraulic units...