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450 ES vs Ruby and pro's and cons of each

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Old Jul 20, 2000 | 09:38 PM
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Which would be better and what are the pros and cons???? I like both very much. The 450 is proven and the ruby isn't but I would love to have automatic.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2000 | 10:52 PM
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hey ive heard of people saying that they sold there 450's and buying the rubicon, When they got them they said that it's well worth the money witch in my case it's still to high of a price.
Im getting a honda rubicon in about 6 more mounths
hopfully so I'll let you all no how it is.
One more thing, when I get this honda rubicon I can compet it with my dads 450-s so I'll let you no all the faults and up's.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2000 | 11:13 PM
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Well, I traded my 450ES for a Rubicon, and couldn't be happier. The 450 is a great machine, but the Rubicon is better in a lot of ways. It definitely has more power. You can feel it. It also has more ground clearance, softer suspension, and easier steering. The shifting is smooth as glass. Even in ESP mode, all you feel is a slight surge forward. On the 450ES, you hear, and feel, a distinct "clank" when it shifts to another gear. The 450 cannot be started in gear, unless rewired to do so. The Rubicon can be started by holding in the right brake lever. No buttons to fumble with when shifting into reverse on the Rubie. Just pull the lever back. The Rubicon is simply one awesome machine. Considering it's MSRP is only $600 more, I would say it's a bargain. Do yourself a favor, and test ride both. The choice will be clear.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2000 | 12:09 AM
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Rubieman--What kind of wheels are your 26" tires on? And, what widths are the fronts and rears? Thanks.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2000 | 09:14 AM
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I have 26X9X12 on the front, and 26X12x12 on the rear. I like the looks of the stock rims, so I kept them on. How about you, TxDoc2?
 
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Old Jul 21, 2000 | 10:08 AM
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HI,how are doing!could you plese let know if you riding with other atv's and does you're rubicon compare in different types of terrain





thanks,Mark goattrotter
 
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Old Jul 21, 2000 | 09:13 PM
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Been out a couple of times with others, but they have mostly Hondas...450's, and Ranchers. One guy did have an Arctic Cat with off brand mud tires, and I went everywhere he did. I still had the stock tires on mine then. Through water, mud, up hills, and over logs, the Rubicon had no trouble at all.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2000 | 09:29 PM
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The Rubicon sounds great I'm still saving to get one. Hey Rubeman have you had any problems at all with it?
 
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Old Jul 22, 2000 | 10:38 PM
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Rubeman--I bought some Titan 26" 589's to run on my stock wheels for everyday use. My ATV is in Shreveport at Highlifter so they can make a new fornt mud flap support so my 28" Outlaws (on ITP Magnums) can run without running the support with the wheels turned hard to one side.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2000 | 12:10 AM
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No problems at all with it so far. I don't really expect to either. It has performed even better than I imagined. The only things I would have done differently on it are the front "bumper", and the rear rack. The front bumper isn't near as meaty as the one on my 450. I don't know how well that plastic piece will hold up. The rear rack is plenty wide. The problem is, there is only one crossbar directly behind the seat. For large items, it works fine. Small items like coolers or gas cans want to teeter totter. Both of these can be cured by aftermarket parts, I'm sure. I just think Honda should have beefed up these two areas, especially for their flagship ATV. Either way, I wouldn't trade it for any other on the market. It is, as everyone calls it, the Cadillac of ATV's.
 
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