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Old May 7, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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Default ds650-snorkles on or take em off?

I removed my air box lid and am having my carb re-jetted next week. should I leave the snorkle things on or take them off?? if I do take them off, I guess I'd plug the holes...

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Old May 7, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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Is you carb stock ? If not ignore whats below

If it is its vacum operated and will work better with the lid on

There is a diaphram on the top of the carb which is attached to the slide this diaphram is actuated by the vacum in your air box

not just my opinion i have it in writing from some one who knows about such things

I have cut a few coils of the spring to sharpen throttle response which seems to work ok
 
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Old May 7, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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Default ds650-snorkles on or take em off?

I do have the stock carb and I have heard that before, but my 650 runs a lot better w/o the lid on already (w/o re-jetting) [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
 
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Old May 8, 2004 | 02:47 AM
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Yeah Same here the lid off, makes more power!!!!
 
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Old May 9, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Thats interesting

i will try it on mine to see if there is any differance I am in the process of re jetting at the moment and i was to rich on the main today so the lid off might cure that problem without changing the jet
I will keep u posted
 
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Old May 9, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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keep us posted[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
 
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Old May 10, 2004 | 02:12 AM
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Default ds650-snorkles on or take em off?

You know I keep hearing about the lid being on , but when I was out at glamis last trip it picked up better all through the gears with the lid off, and it was not the noise, it pulled harder.
 
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Old May 10, 2004 | 08:07 AM
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Default ds650-snorkles on or take em off?

same here, I took the lid off just to try it once before, this was when my exhaust had no packing (it was all blown out) and the exhaust was so loud I couldn't tell the differnce in the intake sound, BUT my 650 did make more power without a doubt. now I have my exhaust re-packed and a quiet core added to it, and it still makes more power than before.

I don't understand the whole vaccum operated slide thing, I havent noticed a differnce with the lid off as far as that....
 
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Old May 10, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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A vaccum slide carb requires intake vaccum to operate correctly. if you take off the lid or even worse take off the intake tube and run a direct filter, it doesn't work as well. mr. HP has spent countless hours on a dyno, and he will tell you that jetted correctly for lid on will make for hp that jetted for lid off.

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Old May 10, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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Sounds like to me we can go around and around on this subject, yes I have read that on a dyno the DS650 can make more HP with the lid on, but you see when I'm dailing my quad out in Glamis, I dont have a dyno, my dyno is Olds, or China Hill, and Ill tell you what!
Hitting those hills you can feel the bikes tunning going up those hills, I tested mine with the lid on and without the lid, my personel feelings on this isl, My DS took those hills better without the lid, I re-jetted from 175 to 185, 45 slow, needle 5th, 3 1/2 turns, and guess what!
Im a happy camper! To me it not about HP, its the torque!
And that is what I bought a 4 stroke for. Well also to putt with the kids.
 
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