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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 10:12 PM
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what can be done about the suspension on the prarie. I still got mine stock and its ok for smooth trails,but when it gets rough it sucks. I think the weight of the atv dooms it for any kind of fast riding,although I think its the best atv out there. The other atvs must really suck if my 650 is rated good. I may be complaining becues ever since the woods dried up from spring I been in 2wd tryin to motocross in the woods like it was a sport atv. Anyways the rocks and roots are like I was workin a jackhammer. I got atv holeshots and they are a great improvment, I now they have aftermarket shocks
but wondered if they are worth it. I think what I am sayin Is going fast is fun in the prarie up to a point,
but it goes far faster than the suspension will allow and can anything be done about it.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 12:56 AM
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You could talk to Yann at Elka about two stage progressive springs for the front. I ride rocks too here in the mountains and I don't find it to be a big problem. I use 25" mudrunners and elka front springs.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 03:01 AM
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I do XC racing with my P650 and in my first race this year (GNCC in TX), I quickly discovered that the P650 motor far outruns its suspension! I have progressive springs on the front and they are a good improvement, but the reality is that the P650 still does not handle like a sport quad over the rough stuff and also in the tight, twisty turns on a XC course.

I don't know what else I can do about improving my suspension (other than to try Elka springs instead of my progressives...but I don't think it would be a significant difference). However, I have resolved to make my P650 handle sharp turns a little better by mounting 22" sport quad tires on my P650. Right now, I have 2 rear V-force wheels mounted on my P650 and I'm waiting for a new set of 11" rims and 22" tires to arrive at my house next week so I can try them out. I'll report back after I get a chance to ride them and see if it handles the sharp turns any better than my 25" bearclaws do.

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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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I know how you feel. I have the Elka springs up front at the softest settings. I only bottom out on the slow technical rough stuff. I run the 26" atr and keep lowering the psi to get more comfort. When I had the rears @ 3psi on my 25" atr's it was better but harder to throw the rear around. They hook up well.
The progressive springs are a straight rate 600lb coil. The elka's are a dual spring setup with a 600lb and a shorter 80lb spring. It think I am correct on the short spring rate. Don't remember well. I like them over stock. The short softer spring takes up the smaller anoying stuff. I still have to take some pre load off my rear spring. It's still at the OE setting.
I ride with a Rincon that has ATR's. I am a better fast rider than he but on the tight, hard, rough, rutted, root laden terrain I get beat to death trying to keep up while he dissapears in cadilac like comfort. I love my P650 but if that Rincon had a locking front, a better tranny, larger racks and a smooth running motor as strong as the P, I might be tempted.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 11:54 PM
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I adjusted rear spring pre load & for me it made a huge difference in the rough trails at speed. I backed it all the way off. I'm light in weight & only carry guns & light tools on back rack. I mostly ride my own trails & pull a small trailer. Its not beating to death now to fly over the rough,where before adjust I was being punished. Brushog
 
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