I thought I'd start this thread for factual information beyond the short magazine articles released by AC earlier (searchable on the forums).

I had my dealer call their AC rep last week and inquire about the H1. This is what I know at this point. I thought I'd share it.

1. Dealers dont currently have a price list for the H1 and cannot place an order for the H1 yet.
2. AC is projecting the H1 to release in December.

Does anyone have any new info to add to this? I'd love to hear what your reps are saying regarding the H1 prototypes. Any performance info? Any early pricing numbers?

Please add factual info as you recieve it!

Thanks!

EtherNut

 

Our rep said that ac told him that they are looking to price the H1 inbetween the 500 and 650 V2. Thats about all I know on that....

 

So it is going to be cheaper then the V2?!?!?!!?!?!?!!

 

from what the brochure hints at, it should be cheaper than the V2.

 

Historically it would make sense. In 2002 AC had a 375 and a 400 model. The 375 actually had a more cc's and was/is a stronger engine but the 375 was priced lower because of the way AC positioned it. The 375 engine replaced the 400 engine in 2003 and is now the engine in all current 400's today.

I'm not going to suggest that the H1 engine will be stronger than the V-twin but I do feel like it'll be close enough. It's the vibration that I'm concerned about.

As far as price goes, AC is fitting the duramatic transmission to the H1, a tranny that AC currently uses. I'm certain that there's a nice cost associated with the with Kawi V-Twin and Tranny combo.

It is possible that AC will have a higher proffit margin on the H1 because they are producing their own engine, already have an abundance of duramitic trannys and don't have to buy someone elses tranny. Thus the ability to price it lower than the V-Twin.

I'm making the assumption that AC will not be using Kawi's V-twin setup in '06 based on the way they positioned the 375 engine in '02. So, I'm expecting good things from the H1 engine.

I guess time will tell. :-)

 

I heard that it'll be cheaper than the V2 too.

The 375 (376cc) wasn't stronger than the old 400's with the 371cc IMO.

 

The 376 motor is actually more hosepower than the old 371 but that 371 sure seems to have more low end grunt to me.

 

I was perusing throught the 2005 AC literature and noticed that the '05 650 H1 will have 25 inch tires and the '05 650 V-twin will still have 26 inch tires. This puts the H1 with 1/2 inch less GC than the V-twin. In my opinion, this reinforces the idea that the H1 will be cheaper than the twin as they have apparently scaled it back on purpose.

Just a thought..

 

Should be worth more to get rid of that stupid kawasaki tranny!!!!!

 

Looks like AC is now saying the H1 will be available in January or possibly later. Just wanted to let you guys know.