Still shopping... was going to buy a quad this year but had to postpone until next year. Maybe it's not a bad thing with the release of the Kawa BF... Does anybody think its perhaps a bit risky to buy the first year of this model or would it be better to wait until Kawa has addressed any early problems? Remember the problem Yamaha had with people snapping axels and CV joints on the redesigned 2003 Grizz? Boon for the dealerships that got to fix all those quads, but I know many 2003 Grizz owners were pretty PO'd. It appears that Yamaha has fixed these problems with better quality parts in the 2004's, but it still speaks to my question. I was settled on either the Grizz or the Prarie 700 until the BF came out. Should I wait to see if there are problems with the BF first? Maybe buy a Prarie 700 and trade it for a 2006 BF next year? Or just go with the Grizz this winter/next spring?

 

go with the prairie then switch to the brute force

 

Forget all the choices you've laid out. Unless Honda has a huge trick up their sleeve for the dealer show this month (doubtful for the big-bore utility segment), the Suzuki KingQuad 700 4x4 is the new reigning champion of the big-bore 4x4 class. I garantee it. It's supposedly got a higher top speed than yes, even the Brute Force,(notice the word: SUPPOSEDLY there, I am not going to argue this anymore due to a complete thrashing, so for future reference, forget I said it for certain) with every bit as much of low-end and mid-range. EFI which means better gas mileage, better throttle response, effortless starting even in the cold and no tuning of carbs if ever you feel like modding. 2x4-4x4 w/ locking differential. Best-handling IRS yet BY FAR on a quad. Sealed "wet-brake" design on the rear brakes like on the Prairie. Read the review and check out the video at atvscene.com

 

my vote is the 700.

 

HAHAHAHA, that's about the most ridiculous thing i've heard on this board. the king quad is the new reigning champ?????????, not even close. heck i bet a P650 will beat it in a race and have a higher top speed than the new SINGLE CYLINDER KQ. if not the 650 then the 700 definitely will. i don't know where you get this stuff, but the king quad will be at the bottom of my big bore 4x4 lists. as far as the BF goes it will definitely SMOKE the new KQ ALL-AROUND!!!

i'd recommend the BF from the quads you listed. if you want to wait that's up to you but it'd definitely be my pick, and i don't think i'd be able to wait

 

The most ridiculous thing you've heard on this board? You signed on in August. Maybe when you get some credibility under your belt, people will pay attention to your opinion......maybe. Since when can a stock Prairie 650 get up to 72mph?[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]Man, uhhhh,......I don't believe the Prairie 700 can either. So much for that theory. There's no way the Brute Force can "smoke" the KingQuad either anywhere except a straight-line drag and then I'm still not so certain because of the top-end of the KingQuad. The Brute Force's handling at speed is sad so the KingQuad will be leaving it behind on the trails. Nobody really cares about your big-bore 4x4 list because we aren't discussing YOUR potential machine here. Honestly, do some homework on the subject before you start running your mouth.

 

you're the one who needs to start doing some homework on the subject, and just for the record, i've done plenty of homework. i'm sure there's several BF owners on this board that would have something to say about a new KQ being alot better than their machine. you say the BF handles poorly, well more than one review has been written and several owners have said their's handles great. Read the 4 wheel atv review and the dirtwheels review of the machine. DW bashes the BF while 4 wheel atv raves about it's handling. Is their anyone out their who has a new KQ, i've yet to see any, so before you go making assumptions because of reviews you've read lets wait and see what happens in the real world. when the prairies came out everyone talked about how much of a power step up they are from other quads, and the BF has raised the bar to a completely new level as far as power goes. i'm doubting the KQ will be able to keep up with the power of the brute.

 

Well from what i see DW has it all wrong. yes it has some body roll but its by no means bad. in my op it haddles better than the polaris sportsman, artic cat, and grizzly by far. no it does not handle better then the prairie no where near as good as the V-force. and as far as top speed what the hell have u been smoking that got u thinkin that the King has as much top speed as the Brute but u need to get off it. yes it a DOHC and EFI but they wheigh the same and the Brute is a 750 V-TWIN come on man think about it the polaris has EFI and what did that do but run the price up. the polaris still gets beat by 650 prairie's. How much HP is the King pushen.

 

ooo and by the way my brute with the will do 75 down a flat graded road.

 

Both machines seem to be run of the mill. Lets look at some specs...

<ENGINE>
BF = 749cc V-Twin
KQ = 695cc Single-Cylinder
Advantage: BF

BF = SOHC
KQ = DOHC
Advantage: KQ

BF = Bore x stroke: 85.0 x 66.0mm
KQ = Bore x stroke: 102.0 X 85.0mm
Advantage: KQ/negligible (due to BF being V-Twin)

BF = 8.8 : 1 Compression Ratio
KQ = 10.0 : 1 Compression Ratio
Advantage: KQ
</ENGINE>

<DIMENSIONS>
BF = 50.5in wheelbase
KQ = 50.4in wheelbase
Advantage: negligible

BF = 46.3in overall width
KQ = 47.6in overall width
Advantage: KQ

BF = 10.6in ground clearance
KQ = 10.2in ground clearance
Advantage: BF

BF = 604.2lbs dry weight
KQ = 602 lbs dry weight
Advantage: KQ / negligible
</DIMENSIONS>

Totals:
BF = 2
KQ = 4

Just the facts

NOTE: Totals are calculated giving one point to a straitforward winner in a catagory, whereas, if either contender wins a catagory but the difference is borderline negligible, that contender is given one-half of a point.

DISCLAIMER: Statisitics, traditionaly, can be stacked in the direction favored by the presenter. I have tried to present a fair and unbiased view of the statistics gathered.