ok, i was looking at a big bore, but now that i think about it, i dont really need all that power....

im lookin at the rubicon right now, as the 05's look like a huge improvement.

my only question is, as for performance, how will it compare with a foreman 450es...

my friend has one and i was wonderin if it has a lil more umph behind it.

i WILL be putting larger tires on if i got one, and they would be 26in mudders, as thats what we hit ALOT, so i was wonderin how it would handle em.

my friend has 28in 589's on his 450, and it definitely robbed some power.

so im looking for how it pulls off the line and the top speed compared to a foreman, as this is what ill be riding with most of the time

 

i would recomend a kodiak 450 an 05 with independent rear susoension, they are more sporteir than the foreman and go through alot of mud. I have driven both and the kodiak is better.

 

im not really lookin for speed.....

im lookin towards a RELIABLE atv.....

not really a speed demon

 

I have an 04 foreman 450s model. My friend bought a 05 foreman 500rubicon a couple of weeks ago. His is stone stock except for 27inch bigfoot kit..My 450s has the 26inch bigfoot kit and also a performance kit with pipe, jets and k&n filter. His Rubicon will run off and leave me flat. My top speed is 46 , he passed me and went to 55 no problem with plenty to go. Funny thing is the 450s seems to plow through mudholes and climb hills that he gets stalled on. We seem to have the same riding style. If i were going to buy a new one now, I still would probably go with the new automatic rubicon..There sure is alot more power in that extra 50cc of engine size..