I figure you AC guys are fairly informitive, so I'll ask you guys about an experience I had a few weeks ago. I was riding wiht a friend who had a Honda Rancher with mudrunners, and a warn 2000lb winch. Well anyways he got buried, (about 5 inches from the top of his tires) and the winch powered out while trying to pull him out, it wouldn't budge him. I know a sntch block would helped, but we didn't have one. Has anyone else experienced a Warn 2000lb winch power out while trying to pull something? Is something wrong with his winch?

 

We powered out a couple A2000's this weekend we had a wheeler stuck in the pudding about fender deep we had 2 winches hooked on, and still had a hard time getting him out. Of course when we did get him out he had about 2 yards of mud with him.

 

A ****** block offers at least two advantages regarding extraction force:

1) Doubles effective line pull extraction force.

2) Requires pulling from the winch spool closer to the center of the hub (because twice as much line must be paid out as with a single line pull), resulting in less unfavorable leverage on retrieval.

Otherwise, if the battery was reasonably "hot," and the engine running and alternator charging during the pull, and the connections were clean and tight and the hookup cable heavy gauge, I imagine the Warn A2000 pulled up to its reasonable expectations, if it pulled with any tension at all.

I recommend your friend get a ****** block; at a fraction of the price of a winch, he can double its pulling force available; a most cost-effective accessory.

Tree Farmer

 

Tree Farmer,

Have you seen ****** blocks for sale online anywhere? I think I'd like to follow your advice and have one in my tool kit, just in case;-)

 

I got my snach blocks from northern tool &equip .... Bill

 

I found ****** blocks online at: http://www.mfgsupply.com/catalog/atv/
under a link for Winches, Warn.

****** Blocks are $42.35 with no picture. Does this sound reasonable?

 

DreyMac:
For the ****** block, AW direct has a great one for $31.99. It has a 9,000 lbs. rating, utilizes a 3" pulley weighs in at 3 lbs., and is roughly 9" long, made by Superwinch. Also, Northern Tool and Supply has one for aroune $15.00 if I remember right, though i'm not sure what the rating is. I think it's rated at 8,000, but I don't remember for sure.

XLR8:
I would recommend looking at all the connections, and wires, such as Tree Farmer recommended. If the battery was low, or bad connections, connections wired in the wrong locations, or wire that is just too small will all effect the proper workings of the winch. I keep a ****** block on my 'Cat hooked up at all times now. To date, I've pulled a '91 suburban high centered on a 3' culvert pipe, hooked up to a 5'x10' trailer buried axle deep in mud, a Toyota pickup with 350 engine running 33" tires, buried up to the winch in really thick mud, both my 'Cats numerous times, several trees and logs, stretched fence and numerous other chores of which I don't remember at the moment. As you can see, I love using my winch, and to date, have never had any trouble at all. I've got a few pics posted at the link below of pulling the suburban and the Toyota out. I forgot I had the camera till it was too late for the Suburban, but I did get a pic at the last minute, before I got it all the way out.

As you can see, with a ****** block, nearly anything is possible, even with a little 650 lbs. machine, and a small 2000 lbs. winch.

Hope you are able to find the problem, and definately get yourself a good ****** block, they're just as valuable as the winch itself.

Mike

 

A ****** block would help considerably though I don't have one. I have found the limits of my winch before and it comes down to power I think. If you had it hooked up to a car battery, I think it would pull better, but an atv battery will be limited. Not so much as the weight of the atv, but if it is really stuck in good it can bog. Mine bogged somewhat when I winched the quad over on its side to dig myself out last November. It still pulled it up, but it was straining. The ****** block uses good old mechanical advantage. Something I learned all about back in the 9th grade. Two ****** blocks would make it even less force needed to pull the load. It is a good idea, though I don't understand why a pulley and a nylon strap cost so damn much.

 

Try www.northerntools.com for a snatchblock. They have a 4 ton block for $15.00. They call them pulleyblocks.

 

Thanks Foreman4X4. it's on its way.

NOTE: When I tried to search the site I came up empty on "pulleyblocks" but found it when drilling down through winch accessories. I tried to search again with "pulley block" (no "s" on the end) and found it right away. Thanks again.