hey guys, what tire should I get? 27inch ITP589s or 27inch bi/tri magnum. I will be doing a lot of trails but i will also try to go over every mud hole i see. The 589s are cheaper and i think they are lighter to, does any one know? from what I hear is that the bi/tri are better in mud and just as good on the trails?

 

ive got 27'' itp's on my 500. no real big power loss and after calling itp to find out the weight of the tire and the rim(c-series aluminum) , it only added i think around 40 lbs to my bike. going through mud holes, cant complain. there is a specific area here in missouri that i have only seen 589's make it throgh. of course the bike was a brute force 750 and has plenty of power, but all other bikes including mine had a hard time or got stuck. at the same time i could go places the brute couldnt. alot of times its the ground clearence. one thing the ac has, others dont. with all this said i love my 589's. ive had them for 2 yrs and 2000 miles on them. still plenty of lug left for another 2 years.

one more thing to remember, you might end up breaking axles. i broke two now.(160.00)

 

thnks for the reply, any one else? opinions on the bi/tri

 

sum guy has them one his yamaha grizzly 600 he should be in the yamaha forum

 

i got the 27 inch itp 589's on my beast and well to put it short those tires seem to be made for the 650 they are not to aggressive but aggessive enough to go through alot and keep you out of trouble and to not lose power i dunno bout the other tires just the 589's

 

My brother n law has bi/tri claws on his grizzly and my nephew has 26 589s on his grizzly but i have 27 outlaws on my cat. I can go in two wheel drive where the nephew has to be in four. The brother n laws can go almost as good. But the outlaws work better in all terrain. Now we got snow and they are awesome in snow. Check out my pics.

 

I've had the same Bi/Tri 27 combo for over 5 years now just about. They don't wear out really, but any mud tire with inch and a quarter lugs shouldn't. They are great in mud. Probably third in line behind Zillas and Outlaws (I'm leaving the 28" Vamps out of this because that is basically a tractor tire). They are every bit as good as 27" Vampires in mud and ride better than any of these mentioned on trails, including Outlaws.

Claws are far and away a better true mud tire than 589's. 589's have a better trail pattern and won't dig as much on loose dirt climbs, but the 589's ride like crap. Had 2 friends both with Rubicons and both with 589's. They don't ride as well as the Claws in my opinion, and you would think it would be the other way around. One of those guys ditched his 589's and got claws. We were at a mudhole someplace and some kid on a 450 Foreman goes in with 26" Vampire radials and can't make it out. Next kid goes in with a Rubicon and 589's and spends about 3-4 minutes jackassing around til he finally has to come out the side. Last guy on the Rubicon goes in with the 27" Claws and just tears right through it. One of that other bunch asked him what kind of tires those were and he replied "The right kind".

On a lighter note, the Claws are not my choice for dry loose trail riding. On steep climbs with leaves and loose dirt and stuff, they like to dig in. Much like a garden tiller. I prefer my stock dunfloppers over then in that situation. In wet and muddy conditions, they are absolutely awesome. The 589's with their spread out lugs will do better in dry conditions than the long traction bar tread of any of the big mud tires. Always lose something to gain something.

Myself, I wouldn't ever ditch my Tri-claws, but I would like a set of Bighorns or ATR's to go with them on my stock rims.

 

hey andy, have you ever ridden the bi/tri combo on snow? and how do they do? thanks.

 

Actually no. We haven't had any snow around here for crap since I got them. Or if we did, it was while I was was working and never had a chance. Silverbear told me they do real good in snow though. He has them on his 02 Silver 660. I don't think he's on this forum anymore, but he has a website somewhere that may have some pics. Would have to do a search for his name to find the site though.

 

This was it. Wasn't much for snow pics though. If you had his email address and asked him, I'm sure he would shoot you straight on it though. He was a good guy.

http://www.silverbearatvs.com/