Brakes
#1
My lil brother's Redcat 110 MKII is not stopping properly. The foot brake has to be jammed all the way down for it to be slowed to a roll and the brake lever up by the throttle has to be queezed all the way down to slow it to a roll. Can anyone tell me how to adjust the brakes or if he might need new brakes? The atv isnt even 6 months old yet.
#2
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Depending how many hours and braking "abuse" your mini has, the factory brakes could be worn out. As a suggestion, inspect the brakes for material thickness, any mud in the hubs and any damage on the steel contact surface. Some brands of mini are very bad for allowing mud / crud into the braking system. For a picture, surf: http://community.webshots.com/photo/...36707922kseBxc
While the hubs are off, clean them with brake fluid cleaner. Even if they don't appear dirty. This will ensure any invisible oils are removed. For our brake cleaning tasks (every 6 months or less), I like using: http://community.webshots.com/photo/...87409426LszXqI
If the steel contact area of the brake surface looks "too smooth", take some 160 grit sand paper and rub sideways across the grain. Not too hard. Just enough to make small scratches in the steel. These cross-grain pattern marks makes better contact. After this, re-clean with brake fluid cleaner.
While the hubs are off, take a few small drops of oil and apply to any parts that move and touch another steel part. For me, I put a 1/2 drop of thick oil on my finger and rub it on this area. To do this, I remove the brake shoes. Don't spray oil into these area. Take your time and only apply 1/2 drop with your finger to ensure it only gets on the moving parts. And not on the pads / discs or brake surfact contact areas.
Ensure the brake cables move smoothly. If necessary, re-oil them. Don't use chain lube or WD-40. Many like to soak their cables in karosine (spelling). This stuff works great.
For hande lever cables, ensure they are adjustted properly. For more details on how NOT to do it, surf:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...76404234ExCGoL
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...76404413cmdoDv
If its hand lever adjusters are all the way out, you may have to advance its lower arm forward 1 notch. For a picture, surf: http://community.webshots.com/photo/...76403812dYapYx
Hope all this info helps....
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Depending how many hours and braking "abuse" your mini has, the factory brakes could be worn out. As a suggestion, inspect the brakes for material thickness, any mud in the hubs and any damage on the steel contact surface. Some brands of mini are very bad for allowing mud / crud into the braking system. For a picture, surf: http://community.webshots.com/photo/...36707922kseBxc
While the hubs are off, clean them with brake fluid cleaner. Even if they don't appear dirty. This will ensure any invisible oils are removed. For our brake cleaning tasks (every 6 months or less), I like using: http://community.webshots.com/photo/...87409426LszXqI
If the steel contact area of the brake surface looks "too smooth", take some 160 grit sand paper and rub sideways across the grain. Not too hard. Just enough to make small scratches in the steel. These cross-grain pattern marks makes better contact. After this, re-clean with brake fluid cleaner.
While the hubs are off, take a few small drops of oil and apply to any parts that move and touch another steel part. For me, I put a 1/2 drop of thick oil on my finger and rub it on this area. To do this, I remove the brake shoes. Don't spray oil into these area. Take your time and only apply 1/2 drop with your finger to ensure it only gets on the moving parts. And not on the pads / discs or brake surfact contact areas.
Ensure the brake cables move smoothly. If necessary, re-oil them. Don't use chain lube or WD-40. Many like to soak their cables in karosine (spelling). This stuff works great.
For hande lever cables, ensure they are adjustted properly. For more details on how NOT to do it, surf:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...76404234ExCGoL
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...76404413cmdoDv
If its hand lever adjusters are all the way out, you may have to advance its lower arm forward 1 notch. For a picture, surf: http://community.webshots.com/photo/...76403812dYapYx
Hope all this info helps....
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#3
Spike pretty much handled this one. I will add that if you havnt adjusted your brakes yet then their most likely not worn out. Im would assume that you can either adjust the brakes at the lever or at the wheel. Follow the cable down to the drum and there should be some kind of adjustment there. That and I use grease on the pivot points inside.
#4
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If you do need to purchase new brake pads, ensure you get the high quality ones. For some brands, brake pads come in 3 different grades. Stock, HD and Super HD (or something like that). Also, ensure you get the kind with groves. As seen in: http://community.webshots.com/photo/...84422768ZnUEIs
These groves help cleaning and provide better grip.
Hope this helps as well....
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If you do need to purchase new brake pads, ensure you get the high quality ones. For some brands, brake pads come in 3 different grades. Stock, HD and Super HD (or something like that). Also, ensure you get the kind with groves. As seen in: http://community.webshots.com/photo/...84422768ZnUEIs
These groves help cleaning and provide better grip.
Hope this helps as well....
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#6
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For our Pred-90, they make 3 different flavors of ECB brakes. Each is made for different riding conditions. Not too sure if they make 3 different flavors of brake quality for the Chineese brand. But if one is talking to a dealer, one should always ask about "different ratings of the same product".
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For our Pred-90, they make 3 different flavors of ECB brakes. Each is made for different riding conditions. Not too sure if they make 3 different flavors of brake quality for the Chineese brand. But if one is talking to a dealer, one should always ask about "different ratings of the same product".
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#7
Originally posted by: spike99
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For our Pred-90, they make 3 different flavors of ECB brakes. Each is made for different riding conditions. Not too sure if they make 3 different flavors of brake quality for the Chineese brand. But if one is talking to a dealer, one should always ask about "different ratings of the same product".
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For our Pred-90, they make 3 different flavors of ECB brakes. Each is made for different riding conditions. Not too sure if they make 3 different flavors of brake quality for the Chineese brand. But if one is talking to a dealer, one should always ask about "different ratings of the same product".
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One should always ask about different rating of parts. Take for example... My Polaris dealer only sells one brand of battery for our Pred-90. My local Honda dealer sells 2 different kinds. Yes, 2 different special order brands from a Honda shop. They have the inexpensive and the other is the same brand and price as my Polaris dealer. If I didn't ask my local Honda dealer, I wouldn't know about the different brands (and price) for the same part. Sometimes, the other dealer brand can get you the needed part(s) as well. It's worth asking...
Regarding new brake parts, I wonder what other brands of brakes may fit this Chineese brand? If anyone knows, please share.
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One should always ask about different rating of parts. Take for example... My Polaris dealer only sells one brand of battery for our Pred-90. My local Honda dealer sells 2 different kinds. Yes, 2 different special order brands from a Honda shop. They have the inexpensive and the other is the same brand and price as my Polaris dealer. If I didn't ask my local Honda dealer, I wouldn't know about the different brands (and price) for the same part. Sometimes, the other dealer brand can get you the needed part(s) as well. It's worth asking...
Regarding new brake parts, I wonder what other brands of brakes may fit this Chineese brand? If anyone knows, please share.
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