What does the typical job run, cause I really dont want to get ripped off anymore. My machine is a 2001 Foreman 450 ES

 

why do you want to change the piston and rings. it not that old and its a honda you should never have to change the piston and rings on a honda utility unless you realy dont care about it and beet it really bad or you just put a hole lot of miles on her.

 

well i would agree to that but i bought it used and the other day it started to smoke. It smelled like it was buring oil. So that is why I figured it could be the rings or and value gasket leak.

 

3 hrs labor plus the cost of the rings and the gasket kit. Will be 4 hrs labor if any valves and seals need replaced. You are looking at $250-550 tops. 550 is assuming you need 2 intake valves and new seals.

Once the shop has the head off, they can tell you if it needs any work.

/Jon

 

if you do it yourself, it's easy. that engine is a pushrod engine, so theres no cam chain or cam timing to worry about if you're just taking the cylinder and head off.

but if you want a shop to do it, have them put new rings in, hone the cylinder LIGHTLY, and put new valve seals in. should be good to go, smoking should be gone for a while.

a better job to do though would be to have the cylinder measured and if necessary, bored to the next size, and buy a piston/ring set for the first overbore and replace the valve guides if there are any and replace the valve seals. then you're good to go for a long time.

 

Do these engines have a crank ventilation system? If they do perhaps something failed and it is sucking oil into the engine. Just a thought. Is the smoke blue or black? Black would mean too much fuel and blue would be oil burning.

 

costed me like 700 for my 400ex with a hour labor took off

 

Woah, I had my spare 400ex motor built with an 11:1 piston, ported head, new valves, and stage 2 Hotcam for $800 including labor and parts.

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Can you provide the name of the shop and the phone number?

Thanks,

Jon

 

He's no longer in business LOL! I wonder why. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] He was some old guy that finally retired 2 or 3 years ago. I think he worked on horse and buggy repair before he started on motorcycles and snowmobiles lol ancient.