The future of our sport will be decided today. GET EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO VOTE BUSH because its to close for my liking. Key states are CALIFORNIA, FLORIDA,OREGON AND WA but all are very very inportant! if we loose those states we are in some serious trouble. ATVBBS: if you decide to move this topic to the less visited land, trail and enviro issues section please MASS MAIL EVERY MEMBER and make it known how dangerous Gore is.

 

its kinda scary how one person person can change an every so growing sport and hobby... i personaly think bush will win since he has 214 of the 270 electoral votes... most of the mid west states got his vote but yet you get states back east with the nice big cities that have people living in them that never get out in the forest and think that people going into them do more damage than anything else... dont know about other areas but here in montana people that ride into the forest go in and clean up trails after summer fires burn up the trees and leave their havoc which is part of nature

 

Remember that Cali and Florida and I think Iowa each hold over 50 votes! That's how Clinton got in as all the low live scum with there hand out for welfare went to the voteing booth. Bush can have 3 times the states but they are rural states like Idaho, WY and your state MT and they only have a few votes.

 

Whatever happened to "Tally the votes and the most one wins?"

 

I'm sorry, our founding fathers decided that the public was incapable of voting responsibly, so we only vote for electors. Illusive isn't it!

 

Exactly.
Your "one man, one vote" doesn't really count when voting for president. You vote, and yes, it's necessary, and they add them up by state. The winner of the state gets all the electoral college votes.
California has the most at 54. New York is second with around 50.
The latest poll I saw showed Bush and Gore in a dead heat as far as electoral votes go. Gore is going to carry California and New York, probably Mass., maybe even Oregon and he might carry Florida. It's a scary race for sure.
If you remember history at all, the vote for Nixon against Kennedy had Nixon winning the popular vote but Kennedy carried the electoral vote and won the election. This was in 1960 when I was just a kid.

 

That's how Clinton got in, dole got the popular vote back in 96' or 98 or whatever and Clinton got the Electroial. We need to go back to 100% Popular vote because the greenies are using vote swapping over the net to win electoral votes in each state. For those who don't know what vote swapping is, its a web page that trades votes for someone who has a tighter race in that state. Here in Oregon Nater voters are swapping for Gore Votes in other states so they get the best of both worlds I will try to find a link.

 

the link takes you to the main page, so here is a cut and past of the page, and the sites are not shut down as both came up for me-huge bummer!
SACRAMENTO -- Two Internet sites offering to trade votes among supporters of Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader and Democratic candidate Al Gore have been shut down.

The Web sites were taken offline Monday evening after the California secretary of state, the state's top elections officer, told the site administrators that the vote trading violated California law.

The sites www.voteswap200.com and www.voteexchange.org allowed Gore voters to trade their vote for a Nader vote in another state where the presidential race is close.

If successful, the trade would manipulate the electoral college election system by helping Gore win undecided states.

A fair swap would also help Nader maintain support that could get the Green Party federal election dollars in 2004.

At least three other vote-swapping sites targeting Nader supporters remained online Tuesday.

"This is not only illegal but it compromises the integrity of elections and the fundamental underpinnings of elections. We can't take this lightly," said Alfie Charles, spokesman for Secretary of State Bill Jones.

Oregon Secretary of State Bill Bradbury said Tuesday that he is not convinced that the sites are illegal. He has asked the state's attorney general investigate the issue.

In Oregon, Nader voters could swing the election in the favor of Republican candidate George W. Bush.

Green Party volunteers in Oregon pointed out that because the state has an all-mail-in ballot, the site may have already done damage to the Nader campaign.

"There is no reason to think that anyone who signs up for these sites is a real person and there is no way to know if these people are going to vote the way they promise," said Dan Meek, a Portland attorney volunteering for the Nader campaign.

Because state officials have little authority over Web sites, other vote-swapping sites could remain online until they are removed by the site author or the company that issued the domain name.

Earlier this month, Jones announced an investigation into what California voters had offered to sell their votes on www.vote-auction.com. The site offers a block of more than 2,500 California votes to the highest bidder.

On Tuesday, the block of votes for president in California was selling for $19.61.

State officials are also cracking down on smaller Web sites. Colin Goldman, a Libertarian candidate running for a Southern California assembly seat was offering a $1,000 raffle to people promising to vote for him.

That site was shut down Oct. 26 after state officials complained.

 

Aww, you're probably some guy driving a big diesel pickup, stinking up the place, ya big loser! Okay, Andy, it's me, the Earnhardt fan, just easing ya a little/! Good to see ya out here. This is the first post I've seen of yours.

 

Im voting GORE!!!!!!!!Just kidding guys