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What ever happened to the guy trying to rig a fan in the airbox to increase airflow?

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Old Nov 16, 2000 | 03:20 PM
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If you are still around e-mail me, I have a couple of ideas about that and was wanting to know what you thought about them. Might be worth trying.

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Old Nov 16, 2000 | 05:56 PM
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dont know...but good idea. ill have to try that this summer...thanks for the idea
 
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Old Nov 16, 2000 | 08:14 PM
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He tried it once and said it didn't work. I've thought about a few things that he might have been doing wrong. I doubt it would work ever, but I've gotten some ideas about it, and figured up a couple things that he was doing wrong.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2000 | 08:32 PM
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People get misconseptions about the more air the better. When you increase your air flow you need to lean out your jetting(2 or 4 stroke).

Also getting more air can make the engine top out at a higher rpm which makes the engine run hotter.

Put a K&N in that will increase air flow and horsepower.

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Old Nov 16, 2000 | 08:41 PM
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I'm not misconcieved or whatever.

I was just thinking of trying to bring some knowledge of adding superchargers from automobiles and bringing it to quads. I think that with a lot of time and a quad to practice on I could come up with a design. Something that would help a lot would be finding some AutoCad drawings of quads I could use to see how different sizes of parts would fit in were the airbox is.

I wish I could find someone nearby me that could help out with this.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2000 | 09:16 PM
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BlueHonda4x4 if you can do it I'm all for it, I like to see people like you trying new ideas for making quads perform better rather than trying to improve an exsisting product over and over.

Don't get discoraged about what other people say, if half the guys who thought up these ideas for better performance products got discouraged there would'nt be no high performance machines.
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Old Nov 16, 2000 | 09:26 PM
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I think a turbo charger would be easier to adapt to a quad than a supercharger which requires belts, where as a turbo charger uses exhaust to spin a turbine. Imagine, that would be so smooth!
 
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Old Nov 16, 2000 | 10:32 PM
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A tubo would be just plain sweet, it'd be awesome if you could somehow make ram air induction into an atv for drag racing, not thats an idea! Oh and by the way i forgot who said it but when you increase airflow you need to increase the jetting or else your engine runs lean and makes lotsa heat and thats never a good thing. But anyway's just imagine guys, a quad with ram air induction and a turbo that would be sweet.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2000 | 12:55 AM
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Alright, I kinda like the idea of trying to hop it all up.

My little plan would pretty much do away with the airbox, so it would be just a straight out performance piece. I've seen electric superchargers for cars, but I think I would have the same problem adapting a blower to a quad. The big problem is battery drainage.

There are some bugs to work out, but it looks good on paper. I'm thinkin I'll probably have to find me an old 3-wheeler or crappy quad to make a test vehicle out of. I've got quite a few things figured up that would seem to work.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2000 | 05:54 AM
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Sorry for the late reply, I haven't been visiting the forums as often these days. I'm the electric supercharger mad scientist dude . Essentially what I did was put a super-powerful home-made 3" fan in between the air filter and the intake boot. It was a really clean fit, but didn't help much, if any. I have had a few ideas to improve on the design, but I haven't had the free time to try anything yet. By putting the fan right on the intake boot, there was no 'buffer' of sorts to smooth out the airflow requirements. Since a 1-cylinder 4-stroke is only sucking air 1/4th of the time, it requires an extremely high amount of flow for a very short duration of time. My new idea was to put the fan on the airbox lid (and seal the rest of the air box), using the airbox as a buffer. This would allow the fan to pressurize the airbox in-between intake strokes. To simplify things, I decided that you would only want the fan to turn on a full throttle, so that it would only operate while on the main jet, making jetting much easier (and the only time you want more power is at full throttle anyways). So you would put in a very big main jet (170? I dunno), and you may have to customize the needle to make the transition more smooth. If I get ambitious enough, I may try this someday. The last time I tried the fan, I put a more powerful motor on it, and it grenaded the plastic fan blade (good thing I didn't have it sitting in the intake tract eh?). Also, since my fan blade was probably not the most efficient design for a 20,000rpm motor, I think using a different design (and much stronger!) blade would help quite a bit. I'd be interested to hear any ideas you have. But, judging by the results I've seen on other electric superchargers, I don't think you'd even see a 10% gain (or 3hp) in power. The simple fact is that electric fans can be made to move a lot of air, but they can't build much pressure at all. Even the most powerful commercial fans I've seen can only build .5inH2O of pressure, which is not even 0.1psi, compared to most supercharged cars running 8-10psi of boost.
 
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