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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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.......What about the Boss Noss system? Well, Glen arrived Sunday night; Bo worked at least a 24 hour shift starting that night. We got on the dyno Tuesday after fighting the normal gremlins with an all new frame with an all new engine. Bottom line is we didn't have enough time Tuesday and Wednesday to get it all lined out and figured out. At 6pm Wednesday we had to pull off the dyno and load the trailer just to get to the race by Thursday morning. That 48 hour shift of work and driving about killed us all.
During that week, I felt about every emotion that's been expressed on this forum, good and bad. The system hadn't been tested on an atv of this nature, parts were limited, and nothing in life is a certain. Like everyone else when frustrated, I wanted to blame something or someone. We discussed how we would show up for this race several months ago- and we knew alot of things would have to come together without too many problems in order to make it happen. No matter how hard we fought it, it came down to the last minute to make even a decent showing. We decided, as a team, to do things the way we did them. Sandbomber is a risk taker and he tried alot of new things at one time. Most of them worked, a couple of them didn't. We had a backup plan when the axle failed, but we didn't have a good one for the nitrous system considering the amount of time we had.
Given another chance, I'd have put the old NOS system on, dialed it up, and saved everyone alot of grief. The next race would have been the Boss Noss debut. But, we were getting closer and closer to figuring out the new system and crossed that time line where we couldn't turn back. Given a little more time, Glen's bike would have set some single cylinder records (if I understand correctly, we were .02 sec from the 2 stroke single record!), Boss Noss would have been the hero of the day, and we'd all be smiling. As it is, the team set some 4 stroke records, and we're still smiling. It simply could not have turned out any better even if the system was working properly: we'd still have a first in motor class, a first in 4 stroke unlimited, and 1st and 2nd in the 2/4 combined.

We ARE grown men, who do know the risks we take when going to a new product. We took that risk, some things were out of anyone's control, and we still won anyway. JUST ENOUGH!!! It's all good. Now we're going to do what we should have done to begin with. We'll put the Boss system on a somewhat stockish bike that doesn't have 16:1 compression, and is much more forgiving to our learning process. This is what the majority of the people are running anyway- how many people have a 90hp 16:1 bad boy 4 stroke? We'll get it all figured out, pull Glen's back on the dyno, learn a little more, and try to make the next race with Boss Noss powering it, assuming we have Glen's blessing, of course.

I have talked with very reputable people who believe this is a great system. It is my hope and belief that this system will be a great system for the massses. Remember, we were asking alot out of this system with little room for error. So, please hold judgement - that was the first test under extenuating circumstances. (did I spell that right?). Mark has kept very close contact with us through all of this and is working hard to do all the right things. If it takes some special setup, he's committed to do it. That's all we can ask for. I made a commitment to Mark when he took the job; to test it, work with him if anything needed changed specifically for the DS650, and give it a stamp of approval or disapproval in the end.

That shows the respect Mark has for HPR- that alone earned alot of respect from me. Some of your jaws have dropped by now, knowing the history we have. But, when our differences breed respect instead of hatred, we can all move forward. Lord help me to never turn away from a man who is willing to humble himself and make things better. I don't want to be judged for the things I've done wrong, but rather for the things I did to make my wrongs right. From what I've seen lately, we're all working on that alot lately. So, we'll see, and we'll try not to gamble with Mark's livelihood with such high stakes involved. Stay tuned....

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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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I an no expert on NOS , but I would'nt of thought there would be to much in common in the kit supplied for sandbombers bike and what you would use on the average blokes bike setup? If BOSS are standing behind there product and want to help to get it right, what more can you ask for. Most new products have a few teething troubles and what better way to sought them out than on the track in front of everyone and not behind closed doors.

Congrats on the records being broken 222 and the HPR crew.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

Mr HP is going to have to cut back on the wins if he wants to keep adding to his sig[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Nicely put Randall. Congrats to all who showed and helped make that event a success.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Great humble response. You have my respect. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
 
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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that is a very nice thread, after the end cap thing i would have never expected that[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]
 
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Good read 222... that adds some very nice perspective to some of the things going on lately.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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Randall.That is a very good and positive response to a somewhat trying experience.Your comment about differences breeding respect instead of hatred speaks volumes to me about your integrity,good for you.I know Mark personally and we have ridden together a few times and he has always come through for me with business dealings and i would be willing to bet that he is doing everything everything possible to have a good outcome from this.Your attitude and outlook is rare these days and i applaud you for it.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Wow. I am truely humbled.


The paths that my life has taken me has brought me around full circle. Glenn & I, a few months ago, recognized the need for Randall and I to work together. I took a chance on that, and Randall did too. While I cant speak for Randall, what I recognized was how much common ground we have. Our history, as two competitors in some areas, has been difficult. For months, my logical mind has struggled to give him a much higher level of trust than we have had historically. The part that made me able to do it, was a telephone call from him when I left Boonies. Those that know me know how hard that was. He said all things happen for a reason. Randall is a better man than I am. I dont think he struggled with this as much as I did. I have an HPR shirt right here at my desk at work that I look at often. Its a constant reminder to me about overcoming tremendous pre-conceptions. I've always said that open minds are important to learning new things. I dont always, nor have I always lived up to that as well as I could have. Maybe that shirt will remind me to do that as often as I can.

Perhaps this is part of the truth of life, as it can eventually happen for everyone: Realizing that the enemy is seldom a person. builder, or manufacturer - but rather the enemy is our own pre-conceptions about them.

 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 02:02 AM
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Good read guys!!!! keep up the good work.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 02:09 AM
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Originally posted by: OregonDunePatrol
Wow. I am truely humbled.


The paths that my life has taken me has brought me around full circle. Glenn & I, a few months ago, recognized the need for Randall and I to work together. I took a chance on that, and Randall did too. While I cant speak for Randall, what I recognized was how much common ground we have. Our history, as two competitors in some areas, has been difficult. For months, my logical mind has struggled to give him a much higher level of trust than we have had historically. The part that made me able to do it, was a telephone call from him when I left Boonies. Those that know me know how hard that was. He said all things happen for a reason. Randall is a better man than I am. I dont think he struggled with this as much as I did. I have an HPR shirt right here at my desk at work that I look at often. Its a constant reminder to me about overcoming tremendous pre-conceptions. I've always said that open minds are important to learning new things. I dont always, nor have I always lived up to that as well as I could have. Maybe that shirt will remind me to do that as often as I can.

Perhaps this is part of the truth of life, as it can eventually happen for everyone: Realizing that the enemy is seldom a person. builder, or manufacturer - but rather the enemy is our own pre-conceptions about them.
that is the truth . great post

 
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