I know we have had the go arounds, and these are better then that, and my opinion is this, so you stink kind of stuff on this topic, and that is not what I want. I want to know about what you have truely experianced with this, and the true plus and possible minus to any and all.

I want to know more about cams....The Ron Wood ones available, the 109s, and the HRs. Give me real info, or your real opinion. I don't want anyone to get butt hurt over this and that, I just want some real life I have this and this is what I gained or lost. No personal attacks, and no low blows. I just need some info to really help me deside what to use......Is the extra money worth it? I have asked for some Dyno comparrisons else where, so those will help me decide also.

Thanks in advance for keeping this an upstanding topic.

 

I have 2 stock bore 650s. Both have CDIs, carbs and 14/1 pistons. I mean the only thing different about these quads are one is blue and one red. One has HPR cams and one has 109 Webs. The HPR cams are faster because of increased low end. I drag race alot and its about a wheel to a quad difference and I only notice it on the low end. Same tires, filter, jetting and its a little faster. Thats my 2cents. I think HPR cams are the best product HPR has. Let the replys begin

 

What specific HPR cam are you running against the 109?

 

I've used every cam out there. I've installed each and everyone of them in different bikes. I feel that the HPR cams are smoother and less peaky than the 109's. I think that the 109 have very poor low end compared to the HPR3's and even 4's.

Now, the A1/a2 cams are really nice but tend to be peaky in my opinion. Probably not articulating it so that you understand... kind of like a banshee. You can be on the throttle but when you hit the pipe the things peaks like you wouldn't believe. Not quite that peaky, but thats what I'm trying to convey. Might also explain it by talking about the broadness of the power curve. Just seem solid all the way through.

Now I know that I'm an HPR Guy so take this for what it is worth. I think that the HPR cams are probably some of the best product that they have (agreeing with meaner), but until you try them, you won't understand. Might also be hard for someone who doesn't get to work on/ride other bikes. If you only had HPR3's and never hoped on a bike with 109's, you would never know.

Recently built a motor for the Annihilater, and switch his 109's with his A1/A2's. His motor flat out rocks, and from what he says, doesn't display as peaky power as did his 109's.

My 2cents

 

here is the only thing i know and its not much . i raced a guy who said he had a stage 3 rw i dont know even if that exists but this is what he said. i had 6 paddal haulers and he had 7 paddal extremes the tonnage of rider / bike combo was the same. he could get me out of the hole but i was able to reel him and it made for a great race, but then like the jerk i am the last pass i sprayed him with nitrous and then headed off into the dunes. basically i dont know anything about the cams. i know i have a set of hpr4 cams that are waiting for some rings to get here so it can be put back together

 

I use the Woods A1 A2's and really like them. Im a big guy about 310lbs and these cams are real torquey to handle my weight BUT they seem to also pull on the top end. I have had my DS dyno'd by THEBOM Jeff Ross and my curve is beautiful it is as smooth as can be. Its making power all the way out to 9000. Granted not peak power but still good power. So for the money I would suggest the A1 A2's.

If money is no concern the Pami cams are also real good. Talk to Jeff Ross about the Pami cams.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]


I saw on ebay last night the ScoobyDFW has a set of Web 109s for sale. I think his buy it now price is 200.00 for the set.

 

I appriciate they info for e-bay. He wants $200 for used 109s??? You can get them from HPR for $225.....Seems a bit high. Oh well. Any other ideas or thoughts. I am pretty sure this will at least let me know an idea of what I want....

 

Guess I need to stay out of this one........[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]

 

Come on Scott, he's asking for honest oppinions I think you should give yours.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

Mark,

Do you mind if I voice my opinion[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Let me know,

Ron

Brent - Those cams I was looking into are already sold. Sorry.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]