I have a set of these 20 year old toomeys back when they first came out on my 88 banshee, ive seen and heard many banshees and none of them sound like this, really low grumble. They look a lot bigger and they dont have the spiral curls like some of the newer pipes(almost like ram horns). Anyone ever have a pair of these? prolly rare now. my banshee is stock exept for them, and it rips like crazy, ive beaten plenty with t-5's and 6's