450 or 400ex
#1
I've asked a few questions on here before but I'm starting to narrow it down. I was wondering which of the 450's is going to have the least maitenance, and which will last the longest. Basically which would be the cheapest to keep running.
Also I was wondering if I should even get a 450 because most of the riding I do is trail riding, but me and my friends do race in the trails when we ride sometimes and there's alot of open fields where i could crank it out so I was wondering which would be best for what I'm doing.
I do know the 400ex does have a good bit of power and most of the time it would be enough but who doesn't enjoy just being able to hit the throttle and stand it up out of a corner.
I'm 5'9" and 140 pounds
So any advice is appreciated. I was just wondering what some other people thought would be the best.
Also I was wondering if I should even get a 450 because most of the riding I do is trail riding, but me and my friends do race in the trails when we ride sometimes and there's alot of open fields where i could crank it out so I was wondering which would be best for what I'm doing.
I do know the 400ex does have a good bit of power and most of the time it would be enough but who doesn't enjoy just being able to hit the throttle and stand it up out of a corner.
I'm 5'9" and 140 pounds
So any advice is appreciated. I was just wondering what some other people thought would be the best.
#2
I think the 450 vs 400 issues is basically that the 400 is a "toned down" version of the 450.
If you're looking for a great trail/XC quad, I would consider the KTM 450XC, Can-Am DS450X XC, and Yamaha Raptor 700 in addition to the 450R. All of the are nice IMO. The Can-Am does come with a standard 3 year full warranty, so if you are looking to make it last long, that would probably be a nice feature.
I'd take a DS450x XC.... but that's just brand bias lol. The DS450X XC is the lightest of the bunch though.
Depending on if you ride REAL trails or just like over grass or a sandy trail then you might get away with a Yamaha YFZ450 or a Suzuki LT-R 450 (like I am going to lol). I mostly ride sandy trails up around my cottage, so an MX quad should be fine for me (other than the fact that it's kinda wide...).
Good luck!
BTW the KTM 450XC won the dirtwheels shootout, I believe...
If you're looking for a great trail/XC quad, I would consider the KTM 450XC, Can-Am DS450X XC, and Yamaha Raptor 700 in addition to the 450R. All of the are nice IMO. The Can-Am does come with a standard 3 year full warranty, so if you are looking to make it last long, that would probably be a nice feature.
I'd take a DS450x XC.... but that's just brand bias lol. The DS450X XC is the lightest of the bunch though.
Depending on if you ride REAL trails or just like over grass or a sandy trail then you might get away with a Yamaha YFZ450 or a Suzuki LT-R 450 (like I am going to lol). I mostly ride sandy trails up around my cottage, so an MX quad should be fine for me (other than the fact that it's kinda wide...).
Good luck!
BTW the KTM 450XC won the dirtwheels shootout, I believe...
#3
Hey thanks for the advice.. Haha my trails are pretty rough, I live in the Appalachians so lots of ruts and rocks and hill climbs haha but there's smooth ones too. I was actually thinking of getting a bike until I rode my friends quad today. There's no better feeling the being completely sideways and in complete control.
#4
Haha, sound like some pretty brutal trails then.
Yeah so then I would say get something with EFI... I dunno how high up the Appalachians go, but most of the time when you are frequently changing altitudes EFI will work better (carbs will need a re-tuning after a certain height, which is a pain if you are out in the trail and get stranded).
So the Raptor 700 is fuel injected and so is the Can-Am DS450x xc is fuel injected. According to their respective websites, both the KTM and the Honda are both carburated. As a result, I would probably avoid them. Just think though, lets just say you're blasting up a new trail, and you don't know/care what elevation you are at, and the machine bogs down on a mountain side trail, and you have to turn around and push it until it will start... I don't think you'll be a happy camper. When you're riding in the mountains, you want to be focused on the trail, not whether or not your machine can go up much higher. EFI is probably a better solution for you.
Between the Raptor 700 and the Can-Am DS450x xc, I would say either are good choices. If you are a heavier-set guy (like 230 lbs + I would say) then the Raptor would be better for you, as its really powerful and heavy, whereas with the Can-Am, it's a lightweight machine, with a smaller engine. The Raptor does have reverse and a factory digital speedometer, and it is the #1 selling sport ATV in America.
They both come with good XC tires, but the Can-Am has a more aggressive overall package, as it's designed to be race-ready. It has a standard center aluminum skid guard, as well as an aluminum skid plate for the chain/sprocket.
Check them out on the web:
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sp...lhome/439/0/home.aspx
http://www.can-am.brp.com/en-C...-x-xc/key-features.htm
Yeah so then I would say get something with EFI... I dunno how high up the Appalachians go, but most of the time when you are frequently changing altitudes EFI will work better (carbs will need a re-tuning after a certain height, which is a pain if you are out in the trail and get stranded).
So the Raptor 700 is fuel injected and so is the Can-Am DS450x xc is fuel injected. According to their respective websites, both the KTM and the Honda are both carburated. As a result, I would probably avoid them. Just think though, lets just say you're blasting up a new trail, and you don't know/care what elevation you are at, and the machine bogs down on a mountain side trail, and you have to turn around and push it until it will start... I don't think you'll be a happy camper. When you're riding in the mountains, you want to be focused on the trail, not whether or not your machine can go up much higher. EFI is probably a better solution for you.
Between the Raptor 700 and the Can-Am DS450x xc, I would say either are good choices. If you are a heavier-set guy (like 230 lbs + I would say) then the Raptor would be better for you, as its really powerful and heavy, whereas with the Can-Am, it's a lightweight machine, with a smaller engine. The Raptor does have reverse and a factory digital speedometer, and it is the #1 selling sport ATV in America.
They both come with good XC tires, but the Can-Am has a more aggressive overall package, as it's designed to be race-ready. It has a standard center aluminum skid guard, as well as an aluminum skid plate for the chain/sprocket.
Check them out on the web:
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sp...lhome/439/0/home.aspx
http://www.can-am.brp.com/en-C...-x-xc/key-features.htm
#5
yeh id go with raptor 700r for mountains then.. the 660r had gobs of torque.. i personally wouldnt want the 450 dsx or watever he called it.. i dont like the looks of them.. And i dont know one dealer were i live for can-am brp
#6
I don't think not liking the looks of it is a valid reason for completely eliminating a quad from a list of ones to buy... although it should play a small role. When I first saw the Suzuki LT-R 450 I didn't like how it looked at all.... now after a while it has grown on me and I am very happy with my choice.
I think that Rome1991 should really test drive the two at dealerships, if possible. You can read as many DS vs Raptor reviews as you want, but no words can describe the feeling of what it would be like to ACTUALLY get out and drive one.
I think that Rome1991 should really test drive the two at dealerships, if possible. You can read as many DS vs Raptor reviews as you want, but no words can describe the feeling of what it would be like to ACTUALLY get out and drive one.
#7
i didnt completely eliminate it cuz of that.. but as i hear there are NO can-am around me. it may be diff for him
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