WOOOOOOOO that's right.

This is from driver311 on the LTR450HQ:

"Not pretty for the yfzr. Yami had lid off, cork out and seat off. Suzuki had lid off, cork out, cb, and seat off. Yami is the redline. You be the judge. Game over!! Both bikes weight roughly 415lbs.



Glad I have my LTR! Of course dirtwheels (yamahawheels) will still declare the YFZ450R the winner... LMAO

 

I'd still take the yamaha over the zuki.

 

Yup. HP don't make an engine and HP don't make a quad.

 

Why did they list the zuki as having Cork out/lid off seat off but, the yami as "Stock" if it had the same?

 

I'd say the quads are close enough that it's more rider skill than anything else.

 

I camped next to some guys who all had fairly new LT's. They had all already had to do rebuilds.....where I am on my 5th riding season (winter out here) now on my R.

 

Quad magazine did a 450 test (April issues) between the Suzuki, Can-Am, Yamaha, KTM and the Yamaha came in second only two the KTM in the power dept. The Yamaha still took best overall machine.

All these 450's are going to very similar out of box but what makes the differance is in aftermarket support. Yamaha realized this and is starting to offer allot for its bikes in things such as heads, exhaust and programmers for the EFI system, all made by GYTR (Yamaha)

I am willing to bet the R450 had the Cherry bomb installed therefore the 45 hp as I know for a fact that is not stock!

 

AHH!! That's what "cb" stood for in the original post. Ya, that's not apples and apples comparison on that chart. Like I said notice how it list's all mods on LTZ and "stock" on the YFZ. Also, notice the dates are almost a month apart. Pretty controversial for a document someone is trying to brag about.

@reconranger - But, recon these 450's are super high maintenance and require rebuilds every 40 hours or so! Surly your do! ; )

 

So what makes the YFZR better than the LTR? They are both about the same weight, both making very similar power, both have EFI, both have similar ground clearance, and both are 50 inches wide. They both weigh about the same, although the YFZ uses an aluminum frame (which is more prone to bending and stuff than a traditional frame like what's on the LTR).

It doesn't, it says that "Yami had lid off, cork out and seat off."

Yes but almost everyone can say that they have had similar experiences with other machines, "oh i know someone who has X quad and it always breaks down" or "Oh yeah i know a bunch of guys with this quad and they have always been rebuilt". No quad is prone to breaking. Plus the YFZ450R has been out for public sale for how long? I haven't seen anyone with it yet, maybe they will break down just as much as the LTRs (as you claim).

Yes but most other reviews say that the YFZ450R and the LTR are equal, with the LTR winning on the track and the YFZR winning on the trail. Mostly due to the difference in tire size...

And the LTR/Suzuki have a R&D relationship with Yoshimura, so Yoshimura makes a ton of parts for the LTR, along with every aftermarket company.

It is apples to apples! Look at the post I quoted from the LTR450HQ! The "Yami had lid off, cork out and seat off."

And to everyone who's making a big deal about the Cherry Bomb, you clearly don't understand what it is/what it does. What Suzuki did was that they included a "stock" and a "race" fuel mode on the LTR450. The Cherry Bomb unlocks the "race" fuel mode for the EFI. Suzuki even built a plug SPECIFICALLY for the Cherry bomb at the front of the LTR.

There are a few reasons why it didn't come stock this way - 1) If you sell a quad without a spark arrestor it isn't legal in all the States or whatever, and with the spark arrestor in and the race fuel map activated the LTR will run too lean. 2) So Suzuki could make an extra $45 off of all of the LTR owners.

The Cherry Bomb isn't a new Fuel map - it activates one that Suzuki built and that is already stored on the LTR when you buy one right off the showroom floor. And it doesn't void your warranty because it isn't an aftermarket product - Suzuki gave the Cherry Bomb to Yohsimura to sell, since Yoshimura is the R&D division.

 

I never said yfz450R was better man. Just saying I'd pick it over the LTR. Just like you'd pick LTR over YFZ. I have no experience with YFZR all with it. The Dyno sheet you posted states all that info about the LTR but it DOES state yfzr as STOCK. You quoted it from LTR450HQ big deal it's a forum just like this. Anybody can say anything. If anybody wants to brag about a dyno sheet it should be filled out properly.

I realize the cherry bomb unlocks the equivalent to the gytr mode in the LTR which is a sweet deal so you don't have to spend 1000's on the hardware but yamaha bides by the same rules as the zuki does rite? So how can you compare a quad biding by the pollution or whatever rules they are, to one that is modded to over-ride the rules? Equip the yfzr with GYTR hardware which doesn't void warranty and see how they conmpare.

I agree that the LTR from everything I've seen would be a nice ride on the track but, in MY experience it's not for anything else. YFZR, no idea how it would handle elsewhere. Personally I don't really care either way, crazy as it may seem I wouldn't trade my 5 yr old yfz for either. It has already proven itself in my terrain.