I am looking to upgrade the stock wheels and tires on my 09 Rancher 4x4. The stock size is 24x8-12 fronts and 24x10-11 rears. When looking online for replacement tires, every tire I come across has a rim diameter opening of 12 inches.

Because my Rancher's rear rim is 11 inches in diameter it seems I will also need to get 12 inch rims...is this correct?

The only good place I can find online for good ATV rims is from ITP. ITP TIRES - The World's #1 ATV Aftermarket Tire & Wheel Source :: Holeshot . It seems that for all 12 inch rim size, ITP carries a rim width of only 7 inches (12x7). 7 inch wide rims seem slim to me considering my stock rims are 8 and 10 inch for the fronts and rears respectively. Am I missing something?

Thank you.

 

There lots of tires out there for 11" rim. Use google. Mudlite ATs make 25x10-11 is just one of many I can think of, but yes Tires for 12" are the most common.

Mudlite maks a XXL with deep Mud lug tire that are 27" for 10" rims.

Do you want to stick with small 24" tires on a 4x4 utility ATV? Mudlite also make http://www.itptires.com/utilityatv/mudlite.html 24x10-11

Rim width means nothing,7 " or 8" the tires is going to bead into both.

 

Thanks TLC.

I am looking at something a little less aggressive then the Mudlites however something larger than the current stock 24 inchers. I mostly ride dry hard packed trails in New Hampshire. I was looking at the Carlisle AT489, 25x8-12 fronts and 25x10-12 rears. I know you said rim size does not matter so do you agree that these tires would fit on ITP's 12x7 rims? Thanks.

 

Mud lites "ATs" are far from aggressive the just a trail tires ,don,t let the name fool you. XLs and XXL are there aggressive models. Anything less aggressive than Mud lite ATs are considered bald.

That option just save you from buying new rims. but like I said there many brands and type of tires 25" tires out there are made for 11' rims.

 

Yes, the tires you are considering are going to fit the wheels you are considering just fine.

You are also making a wise decision by not increasing the tire size to something much taller than stock, so your stock engine should pull them without any noticeable loss of power.

You might be able to save some money by looking first at a wheel size/bolt pattern chart (Bolt Patterns - A Complete Guide for Finding Your ATV's Wheel Bolt Pattern) to see if other makes of wheels share the same bolt pattern as your Honda, and then look on Craigslist to see if anyone has some stock 12" wheels they are getting rid of.

For example, your Rancher is probably a 4 x 110 bolt pattern, which is the same pattern as a Suzuki Eiger, Suzuki Vinson, Suzuki King Quad, Kawasaki Brute Force 750, Yamaha Grizzly, etc. Seems that they all use 12 x 7 rims too. If you don't care whether the logos on the wheels match your Honda, you can get some wheels cheap just by looking around

 

25" tires are not considered over sized for a Utility ATV 4x4 that has 420cc I hope. The 350 Big bear,Foreman 450/400, 350 Bruin/grizzly,360 Prairie,421 Grizzly and so on...... come stock with 25" tires. Its more like 24" are odd to have on a 4x4 Utitity. Guys we ride with who have the older 350 Rancher put 25" tires on after the stock ones wore out.

Sure there is performance loss with larger tire but you also gain with traction,smoothness and ground clearance. Any ATV with stock 25" tires would also gain in speed and acceleration if they down sized there tires also.

 

Depending on whether you have IRS or a SA rear suspension will determine whether or not you can use the wheels off a different make of machine.
The difference in the wheels from the IRS and SA suspension are the rear wheel set back measurements.

The SA suspension requires a deeper set back wheel. Honda SA suspension use a 2/5 and a 5/2 wheel.

 

TLC, thanks again for the reply. I am now very interested in the Mudlite ATs, especially now that I know they would fit my stock rims. Knowing now that the ATs are the least aggressive of the bunch, do you think they would be better or worse than stock for high speed riding? I ask this because when I come across an opportunity to hit 5th gear like on a hard packed logging road I will do so. When I say 5th gear I mean about 45mph. Just want to make sure you think these things are stable enough to manage 45-50mph. Again I mostly trail ride but a few times a year when I venture far up north I come across a few miles of wide open logging roads that are a blast to drive fast on.

TexasRoadlawyer, thanks for the reply and understanding how I do not want to go much taller than my stock 24 inchers. My thought process was to go up to 25 inches so to keep the center of gravity low and avoid tire rub. Plus like you said it will keep the weight down. I wonder how much the Mudlites weigh compared to my stock tires. Whatever I order, I will weigh each and report back my findings unless someone on here already knows the weights.

tram, thanks for the reply. I have a SA which makes using a rim off another machine more likely, however I think I am actually going to stick with my stock rims now after learning that the Mudlite ATs can fit my stock rims and that they are not too aggressive.

 

The ATs are 6 ply tires the helped alot with the handling of my friends 500 Foreman, 6 ply are always firmer than 4 ply which helps on cornering. I bought the XLs myself.

 

Glad to help Red....it irks me when someone suggests putting monster/tall tires on a smaller/stock engined quad claiming they've done it to their own atv without suffering a severe loss in power...glad to see you had that particular law of physics already figured out :-)

Like TLC said, you should be fine with 25 inchers, and they make a lot of them.

My experience with Mudlites has given me mixed feelings about them, they have been good durable tires on my 500cc Vinson and work very well in the deep mud, but they also seem prone to sidewall puncture. I put 589s on my new AC 650 TRV, and have had no issues