250EX-DG Nerf Bars, ARE THEY DANGEROUS???
#1
Maybe the DG Nerf Bars are to short?? They don't give you much room in front of the shifter and brake. When you go to shift or brake, you can end up pushing on the bar (because ther isn't enough room for your foot) rather than the lever. Here is my story of near disaster.....
I was riding the 250EX up a particularly sketchy hill climb. (The neighbors kid wheelied a (big heavy!) Polaris out from under him on the hill the other day-this is no place for an inexperienced rider!) Anyway, on the 300 or 400EX, I just ride the thing 2nd gear pinned, and lean forward enough to keep the front end down. Usually, the climb is no sweat.
But, yesterday on the 250, I was 2/3 of the way up it in 2nd gear, and the engine began to bog. So, I figured a downshift to first was called for. I put my foot down to shift, and ALL I GET IS NERF BAR!! By now I'm bogging badly, and I'm going to stall if I don't shift quick. It takes me a second or two to figure out what is wrong, and I finally get it crammed into first. I punch the throtle, and do a tremendous wheelie. That isn't so bad, but the hill is rutted, and without any steering it heads me off the trail. I can see I'm not going to make it, so I lean forward and get the front back on the ground, then I grab the front brake as I stand on the rear brake....only trouble is, again I get NOTHING BUT NERF BAR!!! Without brakes, the bike begins rolling backward (remember, even when in gear an autoclutch will NOT keep you from rolling backward, like a manual clutch will!!!). Fortunately the 250 has a rear hand brake on the left, so I pulled it and locked the brake, preventing a disaster.
Now, my feet are size 10, which isn't exceptionally large for an adult male. Wearing riding boots, there just isn't enough room at the front for my foot and the nerf bar. The 250 is a bike for beginner adults, and intermediate kids. Along with a helmet and chest protector, I ALWAYS make my kids weat boots. And, there are lots of kids out there with big feet!! A kid or beginner who doesn't have their wits about them, might get in trouble when they don't have a brake or downshift when it is needed.
I was riding the 250EX up a particularly sketchy hill climb. (The neighbors kid wheelied a (big heavy!) Polaris out from under him on the hill the other day-this is no place for an inexperienced rider!) Anyway, on the 300 or 400EX, I just ride the thing 2nd gear pinned, and lean forward enough to keep the front end down. Usually, the climb is no sweat.
But, yesterday on the 250, I was 2/3 of the way up it in 2nd gear, and the engine began to bog. So, I figured a downshift to first was called for. I put my foot down to shift, and ALL I GET IS NERF BAR!! By now I'm bogging badly, and I'm going to stall if I don't shift quick. It takes me a second or two to figure out what is wrong, and I finally get it crammed into first. I punch the throtle, and do a tremendous wheelie. That isn't so bad, but the hill is rutted, and without any steering it heads me off the trail. I can see I'm not going to make it, so I lean forward and get the front back on the ground, then I grab the front brake as I stand on the rear brake....only trouble is, again I get NOTHING BUT NERF BAR!!! Without brakes, the bike begins rolling backward (remember, even when in gear an autoclutch will NOT keep you from rolling backward, like a manual clutch will!!!). Fortunately the 250 has a rear hand brake on the left, so I pulled it and locked the brake, preventing a disaster.
Now, my feet are size 10, which isn't exceptionally large for an adult male. Wearing riding boots, there just isn't enough room at the front for my foot and the nerf bar. The 250 is a bike for beginner adults, and intermediate kids. Along with a helmet and chest protector, I ALWAYS make my kids weat boots. And, there are lots of kids out there with big feet!! A kid or beginner who doesn't have their wits about them, might get in trouble when they don't have a brake or downshift when it is needed.
#3
OK,first off you ask are DG nerf bars dangerous? You just answered your own question in that paragraph you wrote. You nearly got yourself injured or worse because of the nerf bars and still you ask "Are they dangerous." Well, in my opinion not for some people I say. Because I used them on a 250ex and had no problem shifting or braking. But,for some people their feet get caught in the nets,some cant shift and/or brake. Anyway in your case I would take them off unless you race because thats what there meant for to race. Or, just take them off period If you can't shift gears. DG sucks anyway graydon is way better.
icav
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P.s:a nickname for DG is (don't gets).
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#4
Let me get this straight... You started rolling backwards down a steep hill that isn't for beginners, so in order to PREVENT a disaster you locked the REAR BRAKES?!!?! Just consider yourself lucky you didn't make matters worse.
#5
I was looking (#1) to warn prospective buyers about this bar and (#2) get feedback from other bar owners. I bring up an important safety issue, and all I get back from you guys is a bunch of USELESS POMPOUS A$$ COMMENTS. You guys are no help at all!!!!! But don't feel bad, I called DG and they didn't get it either! This bar is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
#6
Well what in the hell are we supposed to say Jack A$$!!! You are asking if they are dangerous when apparently you have already answered that. What do you want... you say they're to small and cause you to hit the front of the nerf bar instead the brake or shift lever. Do you want us to say, "No they are perfectly fine, your supposed to do that, who needs to shift or brake?"! Obviously they are to freakin dangerous if they are that small!! If you want a good answer ask a good fu*k!ng question, butt whole! Sorry to everyone except this guy for the language.
#7
YoDaddy-My point was, are other people having the same problem, OR IS IT JUST MY BIG FEET? I'm not the one who will ride this machine. My daughter rode it quite a bit yesterday, and she doesn't think it will be a problem for her. But, I take a lot of beginners riding, and this (and the Recon) is the bike I would put the adults on. So, the system needs to be foolproof for a beginner. I need feedback from actual users, not just a bunch of lame comments!
I have a couple questions: If you get stuck on a hill on an autoclutch bike (transmission isn't going to hold you!), what are you going to do to hold the bike on the hill except lock the (back) brake??? I have "hills" in my backyard that are bigger than the biggest "mountains" you have in Texas. I look out at a 12,000 ft mountain range from my livingroom window. Do you FLATLANDERS form Texas even know what a mountain is??? Don't presume to give me any advice about hill climbing!!
I have a couple questions: If you get stuck on a hill on an autoclutch bike (transmission isn't going to hold you!), what are you going to do to hold the bike on the hill except lock the (back) brake??? I have "hills" in my backyard that are bigger than the biggest "mountains" you have in Texas. I look out at a 12,000 ft mountain range from my livingroom window. Do you FLATLANDERS form Texas even know what a mountain is??? Don't presume to give me any advice about hill climbing!!
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#8
If your rolling backwards down a steep hill you use the front brakes. Using the back could cause your front end to come up and end up tumbling backwards. Yes we do have hills here in EAST TEXAS, pretty damn big ones, just because they arent everywhere they are plenty here. But you don't need hills to know locking your rear brake while rolling backwards will cause your front end to raise up, all you need is comon sence (which some people obviously don't have [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]) If you wanna know if other people have that same problem ask them that instead of if they are dangerous. Make your questions clear and you wouldn't have to worry about it.
#9
YoDaddy-Dude, if you just LEAN FORWARD when you hit the back brake, it isn't any big deal!! Shure, if you sit back like a damn tourist, you're going to flip the bike. My local riding is nothing but steep, sketchy hillclimbs. I practice getting stuck on hills all the time, so if it happens for real, it's easy to deal with anything that happens.
icav-You said you used "them" on a 250EX and didn't have any problem. Where they DG's?? When I ordered mine, they weren't even in production yet. DG is a local company, and I got one of the first pairs they shipped (and I only got them last week). I'm skeptical that the bars you refer to are the same ones??? And, I never said my feet got caught in the NET. The net is no big deal, it's the BAR that is to close to the brake an shift levers.
icav-You said you used "them" on a 250EX and didn't have any problem. Where they DG's?? When I ordered mine, they weren't even in production yet. DG is a local company, and I got one of the first pairs they shipped (and I only got them last week). I'm skeptical that the bars you refer to are the same ones??? And, I never said my feet got caught in the NET. The net is no big deal, it's the BAR that is to close to the brake an shift levers.
#10
Well,duh dude what were we talking about? Yes,DG nerf bars I just got mine. ANYWAY,if you can't shift it doesn't PHUCKING matter if its dangerous for us. Im not riding yours,even if your daughter is the stock ones work fine.
Atleast ask a smart question next time okay?
icav
Atleast ask a smart question next time okay?
icav


