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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 03:04 PM
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I don't know if anyone has seen this before, but it sure looks promising.

New 2-stroke

It appears that the article is a couple of years old, but has some really detailed info. I would love to see that in a quad!

Sorry to anyone who may have seen this before.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 09:59 PM
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hey Sknaus,where do you usually ride,maybe one of these days we could ride together,i usually go to Watkins and Berthoud track.Well let me no.
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 10:51 PM
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He im in colorado springs and i go to bethoud too, and pueblo, where is watkins and is there anything else in that area.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 11:00 PM
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Watkins is on I 70 east of DIA about 8 miles,what do you ride Wantinga250r.how is the track in Pueblo compare to Berthoud?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 12:26 AM
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I live up in the mountains west of Golden up north of Blackhawk. I have never been to any of those tracks. I usually do all my riding up in the mountains on the 4x4 trails and once in a while at Rampart. I can ride right out my back door and connect to all the trails like James Peak and Apex so it is kind of nice. Right now is snowmobiling season for me and as soon as it is done I need to finish getting my 87 LT500 back together. I started a ground up restoration of it and ran out of time before the snow started flying. I am sure maybe we can hook up this spring.

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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 12:08 PM
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I think we have a mutual friend, if your name is glen and you live in Avon, you have got to be Ben's riding buddy, I have seen your quad in a picture ben sent me, it is incredable! nice work.
Im working on getting a C-dale within the next month so maybe well meet up soon.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 01:18 PM
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Getting back on the subject, this sounds great. What has happened to this project, did honda drop it?

If I'm understanding this correctly, using a power valve like device on the exhaust port, the compression will be increased at idle and low speed to the point where the gas/air mixture will auto ignite with out the help of a spark plug. As the RPMs increase the valve will open to lower the compression at which time the spark plug will kick in.

The auto ignition will completely burn up all the gas/air at low RPM making the engine extremely clean burning at low RPM where two-strokes create the highest levels of pollution and waste the most gas. The valve gradually opens, always keeping an eye on the compression to keep it high and completely burn all the fuel. This results in very strong lowend power that extends all the way through the powerband and vastly increased fuel economy with no sacrifice in the top end.

I like it, sounds like the only hope for two-strokes.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 08:43 PM
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It looks like below 40 percent throttle the spark plug is not used. But it still does not look like it will pass all of the EPA BS as is now. The other thing I wonder about is the price a production unit would cost? I don't have a problem paying for performance. But I still do wonder how this engine would hold up.



I have for a long time wanted to see is a 2 stroke DEFI with variable valve timing for the multiple exhaust valves in head and wet sump (no lubrication oil burning), Like a 2 stroke diesel engine.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 11:48 PM
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hey Trout, yes im the guy that Ben has been talking about i guess! can wait to see a cannondale in action,i hope will meet soon for some action.
The minute you get it email me(glen0022@aol.com)or Ben and will meet to see if that thing got any *****.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 11:58 PM
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Here is something to think about! A month or so ago on TV, I think I saw where all of our money has been going that we have been giving Honda! Not toward the Bikes! Honda has built a prototype ROBOT to take the place of HUMANS! Thats the way I took it any way. I cant remember how much money they have put into this project but it was mind blowing. This is for real, the robot was built to work in factories, manufacturing plants ect. It can perform just like a human in its movements. They showed how it could run ect. Honda can do things like this but wont build a new 2-stroke or Hi-performance quad? 20 years from now we may not have the money to buy a new quad anyways, unless we are the people building the Robots. Did any one else see this? I wont to know the $$ they put into it. I wont say what I think it was because I could be wrong, but I couldnt beleive it. Sorry for getting off of the subject. But they wouldnt have any problem building a 2-stroke to meet regulations, they have the technology and if not they have the $$ to buy it! But like PA said how much would we have to pay for it?
 
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