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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 12:33 PM
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Any ideas? I lube the crap out of the zirk on the swingarm and it just oozes out of the zirk. I even jacked up the quad at the frame to make sure the lube gun was on the zirk correctly. I am not sure lube is getting in there.

I really don't want to remove the swing arm to make sure lube is getting in the zirk.

Will lube come out anywhere (other than the zirk) if I keep feeding lube in?

Thanks for the help.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 12:43 PM
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Mine did the same thing. I partly removed the swing arm bolt and apply grease to the ends. So far no more pig squeeks [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
 
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 12:47 PM
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TheFasterTheBetter,
Sounds like your zirk might be damaged,I have had to swap zirks a couple of times on my DS to get it greased
Also the swing arm will hold alot of grease....keep pumping.
It should start coming out of the areas where the swing arm meets the frame.
Also check your upper shock bolt,they have been known to be over torqued (known cause for squeeks)loosen and grease this area and re-torque.
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 03:29 AM
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It sounds like the Zirk could be clogged, so there are a couple of ways you can fix it. If it is just clogged, not damaged, but you can't get a standard grease gun to lube it try this trick. Using a grease gun powered by an air compressor (a new one of these can shoot small globs of greese 30 feet) hit it with that making sure you're square on. I've had this work several times when I was working in construction a couple of years back. (The Zirks on the truck would get clogged with dirt constantly, making an air powered grease guna must have.) If it's damaged or you don't have a grease gun powered by compressed air your cheapest option is to just replace it.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 03:58 AM
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Screw the swing-arm. That air powered grease gun would be great for many applications:
The guy that cuts you off on the freeway.
The neighbor's dog (especially if white).
Neighbor's car that is always parked in front of your house.
Kid that comes to pick up your daughter for a date... "oops, sorry about that"

Seriously, I will borrow the neighbors (the one without the dog and the 5 cars)compressor and give it a SHOT!
 
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 06:19 PM
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If the zirt is clogged then replace it, don't push the clog into the swingarm pivot so it can chew on anything. Then, in the future, clean the zirt before putting a gun on it so more clogs aren't pushed into it. Remember - metric. Don't put an american/inch threaded zirt into a metric hole.
The grease comes out between the swingarm and the frame, and there is an o-ring that wraps around this seem to keep crap out. It will ooze out from under these orings on each side.
If the swingarm pivot bolt is too tight then the grease and/or air can't get purged to allow more grease to enter. After replacing the zirt, if you still have the problem, then check this. If you need torque specs let me know, I don't have access to my shop manual right now. I've replaced my swingarm before because of a busted weld, so I recall having to tighten to a spec, then back off a certain amount, then tighten the lock nut.
There are no bearings in the swingarm pivot, only hard brass bushings. Don't ride unlubed - these bushings suck to remove, and have to be pushed in with a hydraulic press. The factory and dealer will tell you otherwise, but they are wrong.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 06:22 PM
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Hey guys~
Do you think Bombardier could have used some cheap zirks on the DS650's? It seems like a few people are having problems with them. From day one, I have not been able to get grease in 3 of the 4 a-arm zirks. Is fixing it really as simple as screwing out the old zirk and putting in a new?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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A grease zirk is a grease zirk - besides, there is nothing cheep on a DS. All the bolts are grade 8, every nut on the bike is a loc-nut. Its prime. No other bike like it. Its even got the only locking axle nut put on a production quad.

The a-arm pivots are very tight tolerance, not much room for grease, the bushings and everything fit tightly together, this is why it is hard to get grease in them, which also helps keep other crap out. I can only get a quarter pump in them each time, but that's all they need.

Remember though - clean the zirk before greasing it - a granual of sand will never get back out if its pushed into the pivot, and it will grind on it with fury.

Yeah, to replace a zirk just screw it out. Get the right thread on the replacement.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 08:22 PM
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If your a-arms won't take grease just loosen the pivot bolts and then they usually grease very easy.works for me.
 
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