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zilla603s 02-14-2005 02:53 PM

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will the 400ex stock win inna race againest the dvx 400 stock i know thsi is the a-c post but i want the truth

frndinalowplace 02-14-2005 06:46 PM

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no. the dvx400 is arctic cat's z400. since the z can beat the 400ex the dvx will be faster and more powerful than the ex. plus it looks alot better.

zilla603s 02-14-2005 06:50 PM

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yea thats wat i thought so the a-c is better choice??

frndinalowplace 02-14-2005 10:00 PM

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definitely. Plus i think the 2 year warranty covers the dvx as well, and u cant find a better warranty than that. To me, the dvx is the best lookin sport quad out there along with the raptor and yfz. plus all the factory options like interchangable fenders(cool colors like chrome and marbled effects)

weez440 02-16-2005 12:13 AM

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hey you guys that are into racing quads i got a question for you. how hard would it be to take an engine out of a 440 fan sno-pro arctic snowmobile and put it in an atv chassis.. cause that 440 sno-pro is kicking out 99 horsies and was wondering if the 400dvx is 2 stroke or 4?? i dont know much about the dvx but they sure do look fun to drive.

frndinalowplace 02-16-2005 05:24 PM

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the dvx is a 4 stroke with the 398 suzuki motor, That would be a real sweet swap, but your gonna probably have to beef up the trans along with the clutch, stronger chain and sproket, and mayb a new axle to handle all the power.

weez440 02-17-2005 12:03 AM

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yeah a person would have to do alot of drivetrain upgrades but if someone had the time the money and the means it would be sweet. i remember before arctic cat released the dvx i read in a fourwheeler magazine how the reporter asked for arctic to make a sport quad and mentioned using this motor and for some reason that always stuck with me why they didn't. but i do supposed after all them drivetrain upgrades the darn thing would weigh a ton

Alky 02-17-2005 07:09 AM

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the frame would rattle to pieces if you put a engine like that in a dvx frame. the frame is not strong enough to hold that much power.

frndinalowplace 02-17-2005 08:17 PM

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there are some guys on here that have transplanted suzuki gsxr1000 motors onto their quads. those engines on the motorcycles put out over 130 horse stock. elongated frame, titanium sprokets, wheeley bars u name it they did it.

weez440 02-21-2005 12:15 AM

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that would be sooooo much fun to make custom atv's like that, people give you the money tell you what they want and you make it happen. anyone wanna give me the money to put in a 440 fan cooled suzuki motor in a dvx?? lol

Bear4570 02-21-2005 02:39 AM

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Talked with a guy this weekend who has done two engine swaps into quads. First was a 750 4 cylinder Honda bike motor into a DS650 frame. Worked because the engine tranny combo had it's own clutch setup. The second on was a snowmachine engine in the 600cc range, same deal with it's clutch already there. In both cases he said there were drive train problems to work out, but nothing that a little common sense didn't solve. Both frames were chain drive for the final. I asked him to think about putting a 750 Honda into an AC with drive shafts. He looked over my bike and said he get back to me. Seems I have a Honda 750 engine sitting in my basement.

weez440 02-22-2005 12:17 AM

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bear that would be sweet i supposed a person would deffinately wanna put that kind of power pland in a straight axle for and independent would snap axles like a twig and shaft drive would be nice for i am not much of a chain fan but i can't see how it would be all that difficult i think the biggest problem i would have is wiring.

Bear4570 02-22-2005 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by: weez440
bear that would be sweet i supposed a person would deffinately wanna put that kind of power pland in a straight axle for and independent would snap axles like a twig and shaft drive would be nice for i am not much of a chain fan but i can't see how it would be all that difficult i think the biggest problem i would have is wiring.
I agree on the straight axle, but the trouble with a shaft drive would be finding a differential that would handle the power. A chain drive final with sprocket changes for gear ratio changes would be very simple. I think the IRS is possible with components out of a car with shortened axles, but expensive. Wiring would be only a matter of spicing the harness on the engine to the harness on the bike, a piece of cake.


heatseeker8 02-22-2005 01:42 PM

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Plus i think the 2 year warranty covers the dvx as well, and u cant find a better warranty than that.
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This was posted earlier in this thread. My responce is...

UUUmmm how about a warranty on the steel swingarm on the new preds?..or on the chain?..does a Kawizukicat offer that?...And why did they leave the rezzie shocks off from the AC and Kawi?..but left the price the same as a Z...

weez440 02-23-2005 12:25 AM

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once a person started getting into the wires i am sure it would be fine but i just hate doing it, i used to do electrical at my job for a couple years and i just didn't like it got burnt out on it. and you are correct to find a rear diff that would handle the power and that would be the right width but if a person could the gearing can be done in the clutching or the actual gearing of the diff see now those are the mechanical brain teasers i love trying to find something that would both work good and keep weight down to a minimal. the more i think about it the more i realize you are correct with the chain drive that would be the absolute simplest way to go. lol i even thought of a front end out of a geo metro to put in the rear end so a person would still have independent rear suspension.

Bear4570 02-23-2005 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by: weez440
once a person started getting into the wires i am sure it would be fine but i just hate doing it, i used to do electrical at my job for a couple years and i just didn't like it got burnt out on it. and you are correct to find a rear diff that would handle the power and that would be the right width but if a person could the gearing can be done in the clutching or the actual gearing of the diff see now those are the mechanical brain teasers i love trying to find something that would both work good and keep weight down to a minimal. the more i think about it the more i realize you are correct with the chain drive that would be the absolute simplest way to go. lol i even thought of a front end out of a geo metro to put in the rear end so a person would still have independent rear suspension.
Weez; I also thought about a differential out of a car and then cutting and welding the axles so they would be short enough. Still they would be heavy and with this much motor I'm not sure 4X4 would be necessary or advisable. Use an extended swing arm to keep from doing a wheelie over backwards and just rely on sear brute power to git over the top or to the other end of the race. And it would be a complete racer and not much good for anything else.


weez440 02-24-2005 12:23 AM

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yeah it really wouldn't be good for much more then going in a straight line very fast. hmmmmm maybe even the rear differential out of a polaris ranger they are a wider but would give a person that stability lol that thing would look goofy


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