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Saw on CNN last night that New York has upped the fees for ATV registrations and BANNED them from state-owned lands....I believe that Connecticut has a similar restriction-maybe that's why I see so many CT-registered ATV's up here in Massachusetts....What happened NY? Didnt the clubs put up a fight? Not trying to bust you, but I just dont want to see the same thing happen in MA...:-(
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I contacted the atva and this is what the reply was:
Jason, There was an error in some sort of reporting, but there are NO new laws for New York the increase registration fees or restrict the use of ATV' in New York. Thanks Doug Morris "atvguy" Director ATVA The FUTURE of ATVing is up to you, Join ATVA TODAY! www.ATVAOnline.com toll free 866-288-2564 ext. 1337 |
New York bans ATV's from state lands...
If you will notice, both the east coast and the west coast are run by democraps and liberals. They are trying to get rid of guns and atv's in both of these locations.
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New York bans ATV's from state lands...
Been long time since I been on this sight. But thought would being from NY. Our state is messed up on ATV use right now. Currently the state doesn't allow any ATV's onto public lands, unless designated otherwise. Many clubs are working on getting trails open, and some of the Northern counties have managed some really nice trail systems via town and county roads, and right of ways, plus private properties. This is the current trend. Hopefully the state will see this and also designate more trail access. IT SUCKS they take our $ for registration fee's ,but fail to give up legal places to ride. Its all crap!!!!!!!!!
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New York bans ATV's from state lands...
I am in Oregon, and right now they are trying to ban kids from ATV's - as well as restrict cc size for 12-16 year olds.
We are against both ideas. Can anybody tell me what's gone on there since the laws changed. Has it saved lives or do you have enough time to see yet. I need information to fight this here. Thanks. |
New York bans ATV's from state lands...
Lets face it, 4wheelers can be dangerous. Lets face it, some kids don't think before they do things and sometimes are irrisponsible.
I for one would not let my son or grandson on one of these things, unless it was at turtle. (very slow and underpowered) I value my childrens life and health more than their fun. Most of our restricted riding areas came as a result of irrisponsible people. Not saying they were kids but they had kid mentality and behavior. As a result of property damage the land owners complained and now we suffer with designated trails. (It always takes only a few to ruin it for everyone). I am all for restricted cc sizes on ATV's and also especially with motorcycles. I am also for restricted ages. As I said I value the lives and health of my children and grandchildred more than their fun. They will get enough bumps and bruses with a simple bicycle. We have to draw the line someplace. If we don't we might just as well give a kid a loaded gun and tell him to go outside and play cops and robbers - you don't think someone would get hurt? Come on, these ATV's can be dangerous, and it only takes one mistake. ATV's are adult toys, let the kids play with kid toys and keep them away from adult toys. Then as adults they can have an adult toy and won't have to watch others from wheelchairs. |
New York bans ATV's from state lands...
I disagree / after extensive study / it appears that it isn't the machine killing kids, it's lack of supervision. I wouldn't nor do I think most parents would let their child go swimming without adult supervision, nor should they allow kids to ride quads without supervision.
Case after case no matter the size of the quad in use / kids died in roll-overs not because of broken bones, but because of suffication. Obviously there may be exceptions to this, but every case I've looked at so far shows this to be the case. If you know of others I'd like to look at those too. As a family activity with continuous supervision we see no problems. |
New York bans ATV's from state lands...
Age Restriction is not a fool proof way to go!
Size, Weight and intellegence should be the focus. I seen 12 year olds just as large as an 18 year old and to restrict these individuals to a small machine is more of a dangerous risk factor. I seen 18 and older act like 12 year olds. It is all in the human nature of the individuals. Certification on how to safely handle a machine may be a better way. Supervision is also the key. A show of how the individual handles the machine on a certified course. You put any mechanical device into any human hands without knowledge is dangerous and little knowledge can be more dangerous. If it ever come to outlawing ATVs [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] %^&*(! it is never going to be a popular law with the enthusiasts, it will just create more problems! |
New York bans ATV's from state lands...
Originally posted by: buckaroo50 Lets face it, 4wheelers can be dangerous. Lets face it, some kids don't think before they do things and sometimes are irrisponsible. I for one would not let my son or grandson on one of these things, unless it was at turtle. (very slow and underpowered) I value my childrens life and health more than their fun. Most of our restricted riding areas came as a result of irrisponsible people. Not saying they were kids but they had kid mentality and behavior. As a result of property damage the land owners complained and now we suffer with designated trails. (It always takes only a few to ruin it for everyone). I am all for restricted cc sizes on ATV's and also especially with motorcycles. I am also for restricted ages. As I said I value the lives and health of my children and grandchildred more than their fun. They will get enough bumps and bruses with a simple bicycle. We have to draw the line someplace. If we don't we might just as well give a kid a loaded gun and tell him to go outside and play cops and robbers - you don't think someone would get hurt? Come on, these ATV's can be dangerous, and it only takes one mistake. ATV's are adult toys, let the kids play with kid toys and keep them away from adult toys. Then as adults they can have an adult toy and won't have to watch others from wheelchairs. What do you mean ATVs are adult toys? Name one adult who would be happy riding a 50 to 90cc machine. As Sandflicker says, it's parents who have no clue how to be parents or are unwilling to do the job that cause the problems. But does anyone ever want to hold the parent of a child who has died riding a quad unsupervised accountable and prosecute them for child endangerment, hell no they feel sorry for them. Until society and people like you smarten up and hold people accountable for their actions or lack of action, then the injury and death toll will continue to rise. You are blaming an inanimate object, rather than the human who is suppose to be in charge. You probably think guns kill people, too. |
New York bans ATV's from state lands...
Originally posted by: TommyA300 Age Restriction is not a fool proof way to go! Size, Weight and intellegence should be the focus. I seen 12 year olds just as large as an 18 year old and to restrict these individuals to a small machine is more of a dangerous risk factor. I seen 18 and older act like 12 year olds. It is all in the human nature of the individuals. Certification on how to safely handle a machine may be a better way. Supervision is also the key. A show of how the individual handles the machine on a certified course. You put any mechanical device into any human hands without knowledge is dangerous and little knowledge can be more dangerous. If it ever come to outlawing ATVs [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] %^&*(! it is never going to be a popular law with the enthusiasts, it will just create more problems! I do agree with this. If a child starts riding at a younger age (than another child) and starts on a small cc quad or motorcycle - his motor skills will grow - his hand eye coordination will advance - and eventually with practice he will be ready for something larger cc wise. When his body grows he'll be ready for something bigger size wise. Height / weight and ability are the key for sizing the machine. Parental supervision should not be optional. In the case of this sport as a family activity there is always supervision. In the case of parents using these machines as baby-sitters supervision is never key - and this is where bad things are happening. |
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