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biskit134 10-11-2007 01:37 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
Both are 350s, both are 2wd. Would be used for cutting up, and pulling a little landscape trailer around the yard doing a little gardening and stick removal...(after a t-storm, we get alot of them).
Which one is faster (for the cutting up)? Which one is built better? Oh, the Wolverine has the Automatic tranny...

sjbr549 10-11-2007 02:46 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
go with the wolvy. it looks beeter plus a warranty if something goes wrong

biskit134 10-11-2007 03:05 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
Looks do not really concern me, honestly. I want which ever will out perform and outlast the other...

reconranger 10-11-2007 03:51 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
I had a Rancher 350 2wd years ago, and it was one fun machine. I loved the big balooney tires that it had. I could land big jumps with them aired down, and it was like landing on pillows. It was surpisingly sporty for a ute, and pure fun to ride! Avoid the ES model is you can! Lots of problems with the electronic shifting mechanism....

I have never ridden the Wolverine. The folks camped next to me last weekend had one, and I asked them how they liked it. They were dirt bikers, and it was the kid's quad. They described it as being a "tank", but had to have an automatic trans because the kid couldn't learn to shift.

sjbr549 10-11-2007 04:39 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
the "tank" is this case is the honda. 00'rancher claimed dry weight is 498lbs with 850lbs towing cap. 07'wolvy weight claimed is 478lbs with towing cap with opt. hitch is 1,100lbs and a warranty but get the one you like best is the best advice i can give.

sjbr549 10-11-2007 05:03 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
is the wolvy 450 out of the question dry weight is 516lbs plus 4x4 and a 450 motor should out perform bot 350's

reconranger 10-11-2007 09:53 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
"Tank" has more to do with HANDLING than it has to do with just dead weight! Like I said, the 2wd Rancher is surprisingly sporty for a ute!

Notice that to be fair I did qualify my statement by saying that the neighbors were dirt bikers. Most dirt bikers think any quad is a tank!!!

biskit134 10-11-2007 11:12 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
The 350s, in 2WD are my only choices at this point. Out of those two, which one is fastest? Secondly, out of those two, which one is better built?

reconranger 10-12-2007 12:37 AM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
The belt drive on the Wolverine would make it a no go for me.

One thing about the Rancher is that they are dead solid reliable! Don't think the Wolverine has been around long enough to say about its long term reliability.

ctateusa1 10-12-2007 08:34 AM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
The wolverine 350 is virtually an old warrior with an auto tranny. They have been reliable in the past, plus its a yamaha
Honda makes a good machine, but from my experience in the past the yamaha will handle better and last longer (if taken care of right)

But recon is right compared to a dirtbike any quad is a "TANK", or bulldozer

But look a tank is hard to tear up as well compared to a 2 wheeler

montanarider 10-12-2007 12:40 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
You cant go wrong with a honda. Its been proven over and over that they r the best. 4x4 r not built for speed but r for work play and any other thing you need a tank for. For what you want it for I would say the honda is best. Even being older it would still last longer and out perform the yammy. Iv had them all well in dirtbikes but the hondas never failed. This is my first 4x4 and I went with the honda 420 and so far nothing but good has came from it. Good luck and have fun

biskit134 10-12-2007 03:26 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
These are 2WDs, not 4WDs... went with the Yamaha... it is 6 years newer, and I practically stole it. I figure it would have to be faster than the honda, because it is lighter, and an automatic... no let up to shift.

CTate, was wandering, if you do not mind my asking... how much did the performance parts cost you? Did you do the work yourself? Thanks...

ctateusa1 10-12-2007 04:35 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
I did the work myself, but as far as the parts
Pipe-325
Dynojet kit-50
filter-45
clutch kit-180

BradW 10-12-2007 05:00 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: biskit134

These are 2WDs, not 4WDs... went with the Yamaha... it is 6 years newer, and I practically stole it. I figure it would have to be faster than the honda, because it is lighter, and an automatic... no let up to shift.



CTate, was wandering, if you do not mind my asking... how much did the performance parts cost you? Did you do the work yourself? Thanks...</end quote></div>

A manual will take an automatic in a drag race (same machines with different transmissions). Automatic trannys allow more power loss in the drivetrain than a manual.

ctateusa1 10-13-2007 10:36 AM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
not necessarily, I have seen more than one auto beat a manual trans(a lot comes down to the operator)

BradW 10-13-2007 12:30 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
I agree, if the operator doesn't know how to operate the vehicle to it's maximum ability, the outcome will be skewed. But, if you compare 0-60 times of cars, the manual will be faster than the auto 99% of the time. The only exception that I know of is the automatic Corvette runs a faster 1/4 mile than the 6-speed because the tranny is state-of-the-art. But why would you want an auto Corvette? Kinda defeats the purpose of a sports car. But there's no way that a CVT can match the efficiency of a manual auto-clutch. I'm not being biased either, my quad has a CVT.

kickass210 10-13-2007 02:13 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: sjbr549

is the wolvy 450 out of the question dry weight is 516lbs plus 4x4 and a 450 motor should out perform bot 350's</end quote></div>

its actaully a 421 not as 450 ed.

reconranger 10-13-2007 03:17 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
Auto trannies are for little girls and adults that aren't skilled enough to shift a manual! Yamaha chose to cut the balls off the old Wolverine in a number of ways, in an attempt to appeal to a wider "dummbed down" marketplace.

ctateusa1 10-13-2007 04:48 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
well the wolverine 450 is a true 421 cc but it is called by the manufacturer a 450, but that is how most dealers do things they always bump it up to the next level because how cool would a 399ex sound or a wolverine 421 etc etc.....

Auto trannies are not for little girls and adults that arent skilled enough to shift a manual. I ride both street bikes, semi auto atvs, manual atvs and own the new wolvey 450. It depends on what and where you are riding. I would never buy an auto streetbike. I did buy the new wolvy because it is a good quad, rides great compared to anything else I have owned and its a lot of fun.

biskit134 10-13-2007 08:57 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
Dude, who pissed in your cornflakes. I am not a dummed down rider. And yes, a manual would have been fun to have... this quad is for me and wife to ride around on... I bought this with a specific budget, being as Santa Claus is bringing a Raptor 80 and a Predator 90 to put under the tree this year... Give me a little while... there will be a little something else in the garage, and I don't know too many "reds" that will want some of it...

Tried to quote reconranger... this reply is for him.

sjbr549 10-13-2007 09:09 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
hope you and yours enjoy the new quad. i don't know why some people are dead set against pvt,ctv, whatever they call it. they are starting to put cvt's in auot's now so it can't be as vulnerable as alot of people think.

biskit134 10-13-2007 09:20 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
Thanks, I think we are going to enjoy it alot. I had several quads when I was single and in college. Just getting back into it as my little ones get to where they able to ride. Ctate has me wanting to mod this thing already though, and I just got it today...lol. If his will pick the front wheels up when he nails it, then he has done something right... and I want mine to do it too... when I want it to... This is my first automatic quad, so I am looking forward to seeing what I can get out of it and still maintain a level civility when the wife is putting around the yard with the boys...

ctateusa1 10-14-2007 04:53 PM

07' Wolverine or 00' Rancher?
 
congrats on your wolvy purchase, if you need any information that I can provide I will be happy to help. I headed off right now for a ride about 10 miles to the creek. If I sink the quad ill take pics today.


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