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DCryder Sep 6, 2003 09:38 PM

OK...Now it won't start with 45 and alky!! HELP
 
Being the impatient dude that I am, I went on and installed the alky kit (except I have NO main jet). I put a 60 pilot, 95 needle, new float needle and seat in it. I put it on the bike, went and got 5 gallons of alky and grape top end lube.

When I tried to start it it would not even hit!!! I tried it choked, not choked, no throttle, WOT, nothing worked!!! I could smell the fuel, plugs were wet, checked mixture screw (2 1/2 out), switch was on, i could not find anything wrong!!!

I have the stock cdi on it, and #8 plugs with gap at .035".

Do I need a hotter plug??? Bigger gap???

The tm45 is very new and different to me, am i overlooking something???

Will it be OK to leave alky in carb overnight???




QUADMAN650 Sep 6, 2003 10:40 PM

OK...Now it won't start with 45 and alky!! HELP
 
TAKE THE PILOT JET OUT AND PUT THE 250 MAIN IN I'M NOT SURE WHY I DOSEN'T FIRE UP KEEP MESSING WITH IT HAVE YOU TRIED TO PULL START IT WHAT TEMP IS IT WHERE YOU LIVE

DCryder Sep 6, 2003 10:58 PM

OK...Now it won't start with 45 and alky!! HELP
 
No I have not tried to pull it YET.

I wish I had a main jet to put in it, didn't get any main jets with the carb OR the alky kit for some reason.

It was in the mid 70's when i was fooling with it, will try some more tomorrow. After I charge the battery that is.

QUADMAN650 Sep 6, 2003 11:04 PM

OK...Now it won't start with 45 and alky!! HELP
 
THE DS WILL RUN AND RUN PRETTY GOOD WITH NO MAIN AND NO PILOT TAKE BOTH OF THEM OUT AND THEN PULL IT DOWN THE ROAD. IF IT GETS TO COLD THE ALKY BIKES WILL NOT CRANK YOU USALLY HAVE TO PULL THEM

DCryder Sep 6, 2003 11:17 PM

OK...Now it won't start with 45 and alky!! HELP
 
Thanks,

I'll give that a shot tomorrow morning.

ANNIHILATER Sep 7, 2003 12:03 AM

OK...Now it won't start with 45 and alky!! HELP
 
Im no expert, but try and run air fuel mix 1 half turn out...

marrtoo Sep 7, 2003 11:30 AM

OK...Now it won't start with 45 and alky!! HELP
 

Originally posted by: DCryder
Being the impatient dude that I am, I went on and installed the alky kit (except I have NO main jet). I put a 60 pilot, 95 needle, new float needle and seat in it. I put it on the bike, went and got 5 gallons of alky and grape top end lube.

When I tried to start it it would not even hit!!! I tried it choked, not choked, no throttle, WOT, nothing worked!!! I could smell the fuel, plugs were wet, checked mixture screw (2 1/2 out), switch was on, i could not find anything wrong!!!

I have the stock cdi on it, and #8 plugs with gap at .035".

Do I need a hotter plug??? Bigger gap???

The tm45 is very new and different to me, am i overlooking something???

Will it be OK to leave alky in carb overnight???
sounds to me like your gap is to wide. The spark is probably to weak after jumping that far to ignite the fuel. jmop and 2ents worth
Marrtoo

ThePunisher Sep 7, 2003 08:46 PM

OK...Now it won't start with 45 and alky!! HELP
 
Spark plug gap should be between .026 and .030. Run a 60 or 70 pilot, drill the needle tube out to .125 and hold on. No pilot,, runs too rich, and you will get poor low end response and start back firing.

DCryder Sep 7, 2003 09:53 PM

OK...Now it won't start with 45 and alky!! HELP
 
I already have the 60 pilot, oversized float needle/seat, and tube (.125") that came with the alky kit. Will regap plugs tomorrow. Went and watched motoX at a new local track today.

Hotter plugs couldn't hurt while running alky could they???

I feel like the SCARECROW on the Wizard of Oz...."If I only had a MAIN"!!!!!!!

MrMeaner Sep 8, 2003 01:15 PM

OK...Now it won't start with 45 and alky!! HELP
 
I met Quadman at Snakehunt and he told me to take out my pilot and it ran sooooo much better than with it. Id try it without one. I also tried no main and it ran okay also but you will need one. This might sound stupid but about 4 months ago I was at a local drag race and my DS was very hard to crank. After it cranked it ran like sh-t. By the time the races were over it would not even pull up the ramp onto the trailer. I jetted and checked everything over and over. Then the last time I took the carb off I forgot to turn the fuel off and noticed it just trickled out. I removed the pitcock and it was clogged up with something that looked like silicone. I cleaned it and it ran fine. I later ordered a Pingel from Alba. I wanted to make sure it was getting plenty of fuel.


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