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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
Can anyone with the 520 conversion comment on how they like it. It sounds great... from sidewinders view. I have read many of the horror storys already but it seemed to turn into a sidewinder bashing party... So if anyone who has it can comment on the increased rev and more Horses to the wheels, if they noticed any gains or not I would appriciate it. Also how is it holding up? Is the 18,000lb zero stretch 520 chain for real or what!!!
Thanks, CoffeeRoasted |
SideWinder DS 520 conversion
are you referring to going down in displacement? Is this for a class of racing?
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
no hes talking about chain size, going from the bigger 530 chains we have on the ds to a 520(like ur rappy) for less rotating mass
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
geeze i feel ignorant now.
ive seent this done with preddys before, jw. |
SideWinder DS 520 conversion
Dirt wheels did a conversion awile back and said they got a 4 hp boost to the rear wheels on "some" ds650's. Just what that means is anyones guess. They also said it reved quicker.
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
now im interested. how many people have done this, and how much reliability is at stake?
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
The DW article said the chain is practicly bullit proof, even stating this would be the last chain you would ever buy, and if you traded bikes you would keep the chain for the new bike. The chain is rather pricey tho.
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
Contact the Bom for info.
I bought the setup but have not put my DS back together yet. He uses it and is making big HP #'s so I'm sure it's will hold up to our stuff. |
SideWinder DS 520 conversion
I us the sidewinder ti chain on 4 of my bikes and all have been great!!!! All are over 117hp
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
yeah its good chain, yes it is stronger, but it does stretch contrary to claims and needs adjusted from time to time just like all the others, therefore it cannot and will not last forever.
the HP gains are not that extreme, you shed more weight off rotation turning hubs lighter and switching to an aluminum sprocket and even that doesn't give you 4 HP. now doing all the above - chain conversion, hubs, alum sprocket, and also going with non-o-ring chain for less friction and drag, and maybe you're getting into some more real #'s. all are worthwhile and every little bit does indeed count. but you will also get into faster wear on the front sprocket - the 520 chain is narrower than the 530, this is the only diference in measurement, the pitch is the same. the narrower sprockets will naturally wear faster than the thicker ones. and when they wear you are at the mercy of Sidewinder for another, high dollar every time, and unavailable from most bike shops that you could otherwise go to on a trip somewhere if the need arrises, like if you're getting beat on Sand Mt. due to wrong gearing you can't just run an hour up the road to Rocky Mt. ATV for another tooth count. IMO for a drag bike where every little bit counts its something to do, but for an all around bike praticality and longevity get my vote. |
SideWinder DS 520 conversion
I don't know about the side winder brand. A 520 chain is plenty strong for a quad. I have converted every sport bike I have ever owned to a 520 chain. If you can buy just the 520 sprockets I would do that. Then I would by a d.i.d chain or an rk that was made for a street bike. Preferably an x-ring chain. I have never broken a 520 chain. I had a gsxr 1100 with 185hp that never broke a chain...
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
Well cool atvsnatcher. Since you know every thing, I will now do everything according to your recommendations. I'm glad that there is someone on the forum that has all the answers.
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
i just put on renthal r-1 chain and its working well.
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
atvsnatcher. Boy you are just a pompous ass. Coffeeroaster wanted some feed back. I gave him my two cents. I didn't invite your almightiness to come in and smack me. I have plenty of knowledge in both street and dirt. Don't sit there and tell me they aren't comparable, because they are. As far as your experince, sure maybe the 520 didn't hold up to the competition racing you do, that doesn't mean it wont work for rec riding and duning. Maybe you should start your own forum and you can relay all your extensive knowledge and facts to some people that care to listen to the B.S flying out of your pie hole.......
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
My drag racing friends (doing it for a long time) have been using the ti chain with great results. In this age of information in the drag race world when something better hits we will hear about it quick and so far nothing yet (we are listening real hard 2) cuz we dont like to break um. So till then for drag, sidewinder ti is the strongest with less rotating weight. Just my 20 cents[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
Originally posted by: Hightower yeah its good chain, yes it is stronger, but it does stretch contrary to claims and needs adjusted from time to time just like all the others, therefore it cannot and will not last forever. the HP gains are not that extreme, you shed more weight off rotation turning hubs lighter and switching to an aluminum sprocket and even that doesn't give you 4 HP. now doing all the above - chain conversion, hubs, alum sprocket, and also going with non-o-ring chain for less friction and drag, and maybe you're getting into some more real #'s. all are worthwhile and every little bit does indeed count. but you will also get into faster wear on the front sprocket - the 520 chain is narrower than the 530, this is the only diference in measurement, the pitch is the same. the narrower sprockets will naturally wear faster than the thicker ones. and when they wear you are at the mercy of Sidewinder for another, high dollar every time, and unavailable from most bike shops that you could otherwise go to on a trip somewhere if the need arrises, like if you're getting beat on Sand Mt. due to wrong gearing you can't just run an hour up the road to Rocky Mt. ATV for another tooth count. IMO for a drag bike where every little bit counts its something to do, but for an all around bike praticality and longevity get my vote. |
SideWinder DS 520 conversion
Thanks for all the feedback.... I think I'll wait 'til I'm due for a new sprocket, which probably won't be long... If the results were amazing I would order it today but I havent heard anyone even notice a positive gain or at least one that was noticable.
Roaster |
SideWinder DS 520 conversion
Didn't want to say it but[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
Oooooo-Go Ahead.......... I'll say it for you.... I TOLD U SO!!! LOL lets go ride JMAC!
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
Not really on subject but I almost forgot!!! I broke a brand new stock 530 chain a couple years back and it took out my case also[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img] cost me $1800 to get all repaired. Another reason I buy a good chain asap
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
Originally posted by: CoffeeRoasterDS650 Oooooo-Go Ahead.......... I'll say it for you.... I TOLD U SO!!! LOL lets go ride JMAC! |
SideWinder DS 520 conversion
Anybody try the Regina O-ring 520 (PN 520ORS)? Average tensile streghth of 7510 lbs. Chain weight is .4oz per link. They say its pre-stretched for minumal adjustment. They also make a 530 O Ring; Average tensile streghth 7868 lbs with chain weight is .66oz per link.
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SideWinder DS 520 conversion
Originally posted by: OregonDunePatrol Anybody try the Regina O-ring 520 (PN 520ORS)? Average tensile streghth of 7510 lbs. Chain weight is .4oz per link. They say its pre-stretched for minumal adjustment. They also make a 530 O Ring; Average tensile streghth 7868 lbs with chain weight is .66oz per link. I thought the 520 had a tensile strength 7868? Regina chains |
SideWinder DS 520 conversion
Originally posted by: SCOUNDREL Originally posted by: OregonDunePatrol Anybody try the Regina O-ring 520 (PN 520ORS)? Average tensile streghth of 7510 lbs. Chain weight is .4oz per link. They say its pre-stretched for minumal adjustment. They also make a 530 O Ring; Average tensile streghth 7868 lbs with chain weight is .66oz per link. I thought the 520 had a tensile strength 7868? Regina chains |
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