I was looking to buy a 4 wheeler that is the quickest and baddest in the mud and all terrain. I recently owned a 650 and 750 brute force and had alot of problems out of them... Also been looking at the new Arctic Cat thundercat 1000 mudpro edition.... Just wanted someones opinion whether to get the cat or the canam?

 

Go for the can am. I own an 08 650 max xt and its awesome ! After 800 miles and a fun filled year of mud filled trails, it has been trouble free. Its 5 mph slower than the 800 and over a grand cheaper too. The 800r is a wild machine , with tonnes of power to turn big meats.
Ps. I've had it buried up to the racks in mud without any worries.

 

I've been researching a lot lately and have fallen on the Outlander series for my next ATV first big bore. The Brutes worry me too. The outlander needs either (or both) Richochets and a fairly cheap frame mod (three welded 1 1/4" tubes inserted in the center frame) and your good to go.

 

I didn't know about the tubes inserted into the frame, but I think you would have really hard on the machine to require that mod in addition to the ricochet plates. I wonder what problems Kawi's are having, I used to be a big Kawi fan.

 

check out can-amtalk.com there are alot more outy riders over there.

 

Thanks for the tip.

 

Its interesting to hear the 650 is quicker than a brute 750,that was some thing I always wondered about.

 

it is faster than the carb one , and equal to the efi on the new models. i raced each of them in a open field and was dead even with the efi brute but the carbed brute with a hmf exhaust, k and n air filter , and jet kit, was a length behind the whole time, and when we hit 60, continued to fall behind more. the efi one had me off the line by a quarter length but i pulled in front by the same after 60, we raced a couple times. always the same result. and my otty is stock and the 2 seat max version

 

If does not make a HP difference its just a different fuel delivery system.

Sportsman 500 Ho (carB) 34.5hp
Sportsman 500 EFI/x2/Scrambler 500=36 hp

Brute 750 Carb____50.1 hp
Brute 750 EFI_____49.8 hp

 

yea but efi has better throttle response , and it is interesting that a sp 500 makes the same hp as a honda rubicon 33.9, and the rubicon weighs less so it has a better power to weight and with only a underpowered ohv engine haha