I own both machines, the ds650 and a 440ex with extended aarms/axle/shocks... I rode the ds for the first 2 years and raced it in a few races. ALot of my riding is in a sand pit made of tight trails and some nasty whoops. The ds's susspension is awesome for one thing. Probably almost as good as my PEP shocks for the 440. If i had to choose one tho it'd be the 440ex. Its ligther and much easyer to throw around (less fatigue), and much easyer to go faster for longer on. Trust me, i spent about a year in the BOMBADIER forum posting up and down how much i loved the ds, and it took one hell of a machine to change my mind about it. Now that i have the 440ex i think i'm glad i made the decision. But 1 thing will always be the same, a ds with a pipe/silencer will always be faster then the fastest xc 400, 416, 440ex! Our ds only has endcap/rev box/filter and it will probably beat my 440 in a drag race. Drags dont mean a thing to me just some usefull information. HOpe it helps

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440ex:
White Brothers 440 big bore, 10:3:1 piston, White Brothers Cam, White
Brothers Rockers, valve springs with titaniam retainers, 3 angel valve
job, porting, Ct full race exaust, White Brothers Rev Box, K&N air
filter w/ outerwear, Removed Airbox Lid, Lonestar Chrome +4 axle,
Lonestar +2 Aarms, Lonestar Chromoly Tie rods, PEP front shocks, Rear
Turf Tamers (18’s) mounted On Douglas BEADLOCK rims, Rikens up front,
Douglas rims, Timmy Boy Stainless steel Braided Break lines, Renthal
Bars, oury grips, SvA Clutch Perch, Lonestar Parking Brake blockoff,
Nacs handebar Clamp, Nac’s beadlock mud caps, Nacs throttle housing cap,
Trimmed Front Plastic, Custom Aluminum Headlight(s) Cover, Ac Mudscreen
Bumper, AC Pro Peg Nerf bars, Pro design Kill switch, 16tooth front
sprocket, Graydon Seat cover

P.S: LECTRONS SUCK!

 

i have heared troubles with some ds's, but minimal problems. I really like my 250r, it does good all around!!

 

Well with my ds, we basicly had all the problems you hear about other then the axel barrings comming loose. WE bought 2 new fans (warrenty) and all that jaz. I cant say i havnt had my trouble with the 440 tho, i blew a head gasket my 4th ride! (My fault).

MasterOfDesaster-
that 250r isnt "good" at somethings, its GREAT at everything! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

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