I currently own a Raptor and love it. But if Honda puts a 450R motor in a Quad the Raptor will be for sale right away no problem. I hope Honda follows Cannondale with the alluminum frame and E.F.I. If they don't, they are already out dated before they ever sell the first one. I think the mags Know something about what Honda is up to. Now a days you can't keep anything a secret.