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So it isn't the most attractive but at least it's something. Better than what Honda is coming out with...nothing [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

I think it looks wild. I think I just found my replacement for the trailboss[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

Whoa.....Automatic tranny or not....That's gonna be a screamer for sure.

I have a lot of seat time on the Prairie 650 and if this thing is lighter AND more powerful than it, which appears to be true...There is a new contender in the drag race segment.

Way to go Kawasaki!!



packardbell,
You owe me a lunch!!!!!!

I wouldnt say its gonna be any serious threat in a drag race, they might as well go ahead and make it a 4x4, not the big bore quad i had hoped for.

Why not drag race?

I have a couple friend that drag race each other all the time. Both are heavily modified quads. We have about 200 ft drag strip in a field we use.

The quads are a Polaris 400 Sport and a 96 Banshee. And the Sport now takes the Banshee. With the right clutching autos are fun to ride. Just by changing one spring in my TBoss made a world of differance, it will actually pop and ride a wheelie. All in the tuning of the clutch and springs.

Im not saying that it wil be useless in a drag race, but the automatic takes away from fine tuning through gearing. I agree taht I have seen many 400 scramblers that will haul balls, but they are at least chain drive.You set up a drag quad acording to the length of the track, ground condtions, ect. The shaft drive prevents you from changing sprockets, and therefore gear ratios, this is a severe shortcomming and will hinder the dragstrip potential of this quad. I know that the majority of the buyers will NOT use it for a drag machine, but in almost every situation, save for mud riding, chain drive prevails. Im just saying what I think, it may go over great, just not the quad for me.

u wait honda will come out with an atv that will wax every thing on track and trail again.

I've seen slightly modded P650s outrun Raptors and Ds's at the local dirt drags so I'm sure this thing will do fine. Hopefully it will weigh in at less than 500 pounds. If it does the Z will be for sale. Or maybe I should wait and see if zuki will get to use the same package. I'm to old to MX anyway so the shaftdrive doesn't bother me.

<< u wait honda will come out with an atv that will wax every thing on track and trail again. >>



Well, if nothing else I admire your conviction and blind faith! Hang in there and keep riding those mid-80's ATCs until Honda comes out with their kiler sport quad... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Have to admit,a bold move by Kawasaki,but why is everyone copying the Raptor headlights? Ok,Yamaha has the right to put them in the Grizz,but have you noticed them showing up all over? Vinson, Rincon,now Kawy sport with the big &quot;eyes&quot;. Enough of that,back to Kawy,I realize they saved a lot of money incorporating the existing drivetrain into the new quad,but why not 5 speed and reverse,and a nice light chain drive,so you can regear for different tires? Plus,if you run it extra hard,like a sport type is meant to be,and break a shaft drive or pinion gear,you are looking at a lot of money,plus you're stuck,no trail side fix for a snapped shaft or stripped pinion,where a broken chain can be patched with a wire for a limpy ride home,but at least you're riding!! I'm sure this will fill a niche,sporty feeling big engine,no shifting,heavy,but wait,don't we already have a company like that,Polaris??, I hope Kawy at least put separate brakes on this monster, the multi-disk rear system should really let you lock it up and slide the corners!!! All in all,not a bad move for a quad,hopefully later development will see a manual shift version,lightened up for racing or duning .

I have been looking around for a different quad. I like my Polaris but I have decided I want something a lot faster. I have been looking at the KFX400 because of the speed and reverse and it's GREEN, but I also like to get a Scrambler. I think I have gotten too used to the Auto tranny. But I know that the KFX700 is coming out my ideas are a changing. That thing will looks good and it will have to haul A$$, 700cc? wow.

As far as the shaft drive goes I like the idea and ride of a shaft drive, I just about bought a 250ex for the wife but she like the little utilities better so I got her a Bayou. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img] I hate adjusting the chain on my TBoss so I can't wait to look and ride one of these.

You will be seeing more lime green on the trails for sure with that machine.

Same suggested retail price as the Raptor and you get the low or no maintenance driveshaft.

If your wanting an automatic sport quad it could be this will hurt Polaris more than the other makers.

Can't wait to ride one.

This could be the first quad for the wife where she will be faster than me and I get spanked. I like it.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

Chet
VP KNOWSALOT FACILITY

Well you gotta hand it to Kawi....At least they have been listening to their consumers. Honda on the other hand....well those &quot;new&quot; ranchers say it all.

I would have to say that it is like a bad ass Scrambler... I wouldn't mind having one (for a trail quad). I like it, but at the same time, I don't... this quad actually has me somewhat confused. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

You won't see me selling the Dale for one, but if I had the extra money, I wouldn't mind buying it and using for a XC racer or something.

Hey,Raptoryfm660r,how's the weather in the Marshall Islands this time of year ???

This new Kawi makes so much sense. We are talking market niche here, And nobody has got this one. Full bore sport quads are not for everyone, the polaris sport/scrambler just don't have the power to satisfy the over 30 couch racer. The &quot;sport utility&quot; niche is growing, and this puts SPORT/recreational into a new light.
.... I bet you dollars to doughnuts this quad shows up next week in Vegas with Suzuki written all over it...
.....Honda is asleep at the wheel....

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Asleep at the wheel?!?!?!?! YEAH RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Honda already ran off the road and hit a tree!

Someone once said about the F4 Phantom jet, that it was proof that &quot;if you put a big enough engine on it, even a rock can fly&quot;. Put a big enough engine on a 506 lb &quot;sport&quot; quad........

I don't see anything even slightly appealing about this machine. Utilities are trying to get lighter and more sporty, and now sport bikes are trying to get heavy and more utilitarian. Go figure..............

<< Someone once said about the F4 Phantom jet, that it was proof that &quot;if you put a big enough engine on it, even a rock can fly&quot;. >>



LOL, very true

YZGUY,

I would love to fly one of those F4 Phantom jet's and it only came with missiles till they perfected the weapons pod and the pilot's complaining about no cannons. The theory was they could just out run the threat from below.

Excess can be a good thing even if it handles badly.

Chet
VP KNOWSALOT FACILITY

Hey Chet,

The theory with the F-4 wasn't that it could outrun the threat from below, it was that it would kill a Mig with a missle before a dog fight ever had a chance to take place. Close encounters with the Russian kind changed this mindset, though, as the F-4 was quickly modified with a 20mm cannon. mmmmmm.... cannon.....

<< Im not saying that it wil be useless in a drag race, but the automatic takes away from fine tuning through gearing. I agree taht I have seen many 400 scramblers that will haul balls, but they are at least chain drive.You set up a drag quad acording to the length of the track, ground condtions, ect. The shaft drive prevents you from changing sprockets, and therefore gear ratios, this is a severe shortcomming and will hinder the dragstrip potential of this quad. I know that the majority of the buyers will NOT use it for a drag machine, but in almost every situation, save for mud riding, chain drive prevails. Im just saying what I think, it may go over great, just not the quad for me. >>


shou
well if it's not the quad for you ,then you ldn't have so many negative things to say about it. the lt80 isn't the quad for me either but i don't go to every post about them and dog them.i'm sure the new kawi will be able to smoke anything you own now.

AlaskaYFM,

You are right, Its been so long. My mistake.

I need to get out the F-4 tape from 1989 that was saved and view it again.

I was remembering the pod development and forgot about those MIG encounters.

Chet
VP KNOWSALOT FACILITY

I think it should be bored to an 800, throw on 29 inch vampires and go sling some mud. It's odd though, I'm wondering why no reverse? Is everyone sure about that? I mean, it's a 500 pounder. I would like to test ride one just for kicks though.

An auto without reverse. Why then would it have a handle-bar mounted drive selector if it did not have reverse. I bet you it will have reverse.

If this machine is for real then I want one! I have always liked the idea of the Polaris Scramblers, a fast, comfortable auto with a good ride. The reality was the ergonomics were wrong, the chain drive a pain, and the question of reliability. Put those things aside. Think REALLY fast, great torque, low maintenance, hopefully great ergonomics, and you have the ultimate trail machine. I hope they have a good system worked out so the tranny belt will hold up.

does it have reverse or not? does anyone know?

yes it has reverse,how ridicolous.

hey killer, what is ridicolous?

Before you Honda fans slap down 6.5 large on a Green Machine, wait for Honda's new release.

I have heard from a pipe builder in Italy who has been prototyping pipes for Honda, that they have a TRX450EX Sportrax nearly ready for release. It is based on the 400ex frame, that most people is a great chassis, and the CRF450 moddified to suit ATV's, like they did to the XR400 donk when it went into the TRX400EX.

Expect it to weigh the same as a 400ex, be slightly longer, and retail for under 6k.

Hopefuly by Xmas we will know more.

As I have just sold my 60hp 4x4 Scrambler 400, I am looking for a bike that handles, and has some curry on tap ( I like big power - 2001 350hp Ford in 5 speed manual). Raptors handeling suck, 400ex power sucks, Z400 is in its first model year (never buy the first model year), the Predator looks hot, but in the same boat as the Z, and no reverse. The 450Yoshi Suzuki looks the go for me!

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Sure this new kawi might be nice for a while but do you actually think it will last as long as a honda. Honda has still got it in durability as far as I'am concerned. I see all kinds of honda 85's and older running strong but do you see any kawi's that are over 7 years old. They all blow up before then normally.