2 stroke vs. 4 stroke
#12
2 stroke vs. 4 stroke
Here's another idea...
Tell us what specific brands you are "stuck on" in a NEW post (one of those brand x vrs brand y posts). I'm sure many will give you their experienced pros and cons with each brand. Based on your unique driving coditions, you can then rate each pros / cons (of each brand) and then decide from there. To ensure you get good sampling of feedback, don't tell us your unique riding condions. re: sand, bush, wather, rough jumps, etc. This info will be your filtering criteria.
Hope this idea helps as well....
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Tell us what specific brands you are "stuck on" in a NEW post (one of those brand x vrs brand y posts). I'm sure many will give you their experienced pros and cons with each brand. Based on your unique driving coditions, you can then rate each pros / cons (of each brand) and then decide from there. To ensure you get good sampling of feedback, don't tell us your unique riding condions. re: sand, bush, wather, rough jumps, etc. This info will be your filtering criteria.
Hope this idea helps as well....
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#13
2 stroke vs. 4 stroke
I think a lot is going to depend on how and where they ride... If they want to go racing someday....2 stroke all the way. If they are going to putt around all day.. do some trail riding etc.. then it may lean the other way. I am pretty old school.. and don't trust the oil injection one bit. There is no way that it can be consistent in an environment where you are on and off the gas so much. One reason you see them always being rebuilt... but I admit it is pretty easy with a two stroke to rebuild one. When I raced as a kid, I'd re-ring every 4 races... mixed my own oil too.
When we bought my son a blaster, before I took it home, it was converted to premix... I just feel I can control the mix better that way. If you ride in situations where torque will be needed versus speed.. then the 4 strokes have a leg up on a two stroke. Just remember, when a two stroke is being ridden, and you get off the gas... there is going to be a small period of time where the motor is getting NO oil... it all adds up to increased and accelerated wear...
When we bought my son a blaster, before I took it home, it was converted to premix... I just feel I can control the mix better that way. If you ride in situations where torque will be needed versus speed.. then the 4 strokes have a leg up on a two stroke. Just remember, when a two stroke is being ridden, and you get off the gas... there is going to be a small period of time where the motor is getting NO oil... it all adds up to increased and accelerated wear...
#14
2 stroke vs. 4 stroke
Originally posted by: Dragginbutt
I think a lot is going to depend on how and where they ride... I they want to go racing someday....2 stroke all the way. If they are going to putt around all day.. do some trail riding etc.. then it may lean the other way....
I think a lot is going to depend on how and where they ride... I they want to go racing someday....2 stroke all the way. If they are going to putt around all day.. do some trail riding etc.. then it may lean the other way....
Probably right DB. Most Hard packed trails don't require the same power as mud, sand or other loose steep inclines. You should always consider the type of terrain and traits of the atv.
I would not recommend a 4-stroke for dunes (but I wouldn't recommend a stock mini period!). I would not recommend a 2-stroke cvt for mud or water crossings.
All I can add is I thought I bought enough machine that power would not be an issue and yet I was forced to modify it. It would have been a nightmare for me if I'd bought a thumper. I imagine I would have been forced to sell it and take the hit.
#15
2 stroke vs. 4 stroke
Originally posted by: Dragginbutt
I think a lot is going to depend on how and where they ride... If they want to go racing someday....2 stroke all the way. If they are going to putt around all day.. do some trail riding etc.. then it may lean the other way. I am pretty old school.. and don't trust the oil injection one bit. There is no way that it can be consistent in an environment where you are on and off the gas so much. One reason you see them always being rebuilt... but I admit it is pretty easy with a two stroke to rebuild one. When I raced as a kid, I'd re-ring every 4 races... mixed my own oil too.
When we bought my son a blaster, before I took it home, it was converted to premix... I just feel I can control the mix better that way. If you ride in situations where torque will be needed versus speed.. then the 4 strokes have a leg up on a two stroke. Just remember, when a two stroke is being ridden, and you get off the gas... there is going to be a small period of time where the motor is getting NO oil... it all adds up to increased and accelerated wear...
I think a lot is going to depend on how and where they ride... If they want to go racing someday....2 stroke all the way. If they are going to putt around all day.. do some trail riding etc.. then it may lean the other way. I am pretty old school.. and don't trust the oil injection one bit. There is no way that it can be consistent in an environment where you are on and off the gas so much. One reason you see them always being rebuilt... but I admit it is pretty easy with a two stroke to rebuild one. When I raced as a kid, I'd re-ring every 4 races... mixed my own oil too.
When we bought my son a blaster, before I took it home, it was converted to premix... I just feel I can control the mix better that way. If you ride in situations where torque will be needed versus speed.. then the 4 strokes have a leg up on a two stroke. Just remember, when a two stroke is being ridden, and you get off the gas... there is going to be a small period of time where the motor is getting NO oil... it all adds up to increased and accelerated wear...
#17
2 stroke vs. 4 stroke
I'd probably go with the 4 strokers since 2 strokers will be gone soon. Put a pipe and rejet the carb and you can get a 4 stroke haulin some butt. Just don't let the kids do the maintenance on it, they tend to forget, haha. Sucks adjustin the valves every weekend, ahahah.
#18
2 stroke vs. 4 stroke
Say what? I have owned 4 stroke machines for many years... I have to tell you that 1) I have never rebuilt a motor... 2) Never adjusted the valves, although I did have the dealer check them one time after break-in on one of my bikes once (No adjustments needed) and trust me.. if there is a maximum rev limit on any of these engines, I have reached it many times.... and no problems...... Granted, they were not race machines, but my Raptor 660 is pretty much in line with the rest of them... No worries.
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#20
2 stroke vs. 4 stroke
Agreed, pipes and air filters will give you a slight boost.. but to really bring an old design 4 stroke to life, you have to tear into the cam and valve springs and piston compression to really make one wail... and that costs a bunch more than a pipe on a 2 stroke. But oh do the sound sweeet when you do the work... Nothing like a strong thumper eh? Only problem is that once you do all that work, you are really building a bomb.... and they tend to self destruct if you go to far or don't know what you are doing. Best leave it up to pros like Mickey Dunlap...