Hi new poster here ; )

When I was a kid, one of my best memories was dirtbiking with my dad and brother. Much safer than mom's crazy horses and better on sand dunes.
Likewise my future wife, was busy as a kid terrorizing her dad's orchard on Honda atv's. So now were parents, and were thinking atv's are a good way to inspire family vacations.
Which all led me to Raceway's site and the Atv Connection Forums. Man I've learned so much about ATV's by reading the endless posts on all brands
After hours of reading here and on other ATV sites it's clear Chinese models(like Jetmoto atv 200) have great potential. I love the 200's styling-and as a Honda xr200 fan-think the engine cool. I like the wide stance, the electric start and reverse. I am not intimidated by the set up, infact posters here have given detailed lists on fluid changes, electrical set-up, start up procedures...you name it!
It is clear, Raceway and their staff have some amazing service...alot of people online are thankful for their help. Pismo beach video on Jetmoto's home site too looks inspiring. Reviews on this site give detailed information on what the Jetmoto 200 can and cannot do.
What I hope this means is that the line will get better and better. It doesn't take much searching to see how much better this atv is than its Roketta, Bamx, Redcat and other cousins. I am also impressed with how Jetmoto and its partner Raveway respond to feedback. They actively solicit information that could help their Chinese line to make a dent...maybe take over the atv market. Sort of scary, unless your JetMoto ; )
However, since I could purchase older/used Yamaha Warriors 350's or Kawasaki mojave 250's for a few hundred more than new Jetmoto's, the 'Moto's need to be reliable. After all, resale is potentially lower on Chinese atv's, so these would be keepers.

Here is a review solicited by Raceway/Jetmoto. I found the review at: http://northeastatvers.com/uploads/2...blem/200cc.doc
The author states he has sent the same report to Jetmoto headquarters.

So you be the judge. Is the review fair?
What is Raceway/Jetmoto doing to address these concearns?
Who out there is stoked on their Jetmoto 200?
Finally, what future changes can we expect to see for novice riders like myself who also want solid reliability?

Thanks,
Toshkitty
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toshkitty,

I would have to agree with all the points the person who reviewed the Jetmoto 200 made. His comments are valid and he has pictures to prove it. I have a 150 from another manufacturer, and have the same type of frame and welding issues he pointed out in the review. My quad is not the new style Jetmoto that I thought had gone through many improvements. It is a shame that there were so many alignment issues with the quad.

He makes a good point about the engines running strong. Even though I have a different engine in my quad. (Honda GY6 clone) My engine is the best part of the quad; I have not had a single issue with it yet. Most of my issues have been frame and rear axle related, all caused from manufacturing weaknesses and my 14 year old son riding the quad. I would have never had any frame issues if he did not ride the quad. The rear axle has giving me problems from day one. This is why the manufacturer of my quad removed the reverse gear altogether on their new 150's they came out with. They even went with a new style swing arm.

Remember these are entry level quads. They are not going to take any type of real abuse from any intermediate to advanced riders. The metal that the frames are built out of is too soft. The frames will bend and crack. If you are a decent welder and mechanic the Chinese ATV just might be for you. Do yourself a favor and save yourself the headaches, buy used Japanese quads if you can, and as a last resort buy the Chinese ATV's. If you do buy the Chinese ATV buy them from Raceway or even kidsatv.

One thing I will tell you is that our Chinese ATV has served its purpose. The quad got my daughter back into riding with us, which is a good thing [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]. But I will never buy another Chinese ATV again. She is now moving onto a bigger and better quad. One that I know will make it back from a 20,30, or even a 50-mile ride without any problems to speak of.


Good luck, be safe, and have fun with whatever quads you purchase.

SB.

 

smb05,
The best and most accurate advice yet. Please read this and listen to this man. These are entry level and entry level only. Please don't think they can take the heat of trails and bouncing. Great advice. SEADAWG

 

All problems with any of the Jetmoto units have and are being worked on! That is one of the great things about Jetmoto when they are told something they listen! That's why they are one of the best China ATV's out there and are getting better on every order! They have come a long way! And these type of reviews are making them the best! Problems only become big problems if you do not fix them and Jetmoto fix's them, thats why they have won our companies confidence!

 

Again what other company would ask people to post the good or the bad?? We want to know and we want all to know! thats the only way to really bring a good prduct! You cant keep everyone happy but we are try'in for most!!!

 

Welcome to the forum toshkitty. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] I agree with what smb05 and SEADAWG said. I couldnt get the report to load so I dont know what it says. But if these quads were tested as full sized quads there will be some problems. Thats part of the beauty with Jetmoto, there have been 3 different rounds of changes within a model year for some models and all have had improvements made to them this year. It all comes down to waht is expected out of the quad. If you want to chase your buddies around on something from Japan wait until early '07 for the adult sized 250 Sport Quad. Or wait for the new 200 to arive later this year, atleast I think it will be out later this year.

 

Toshkitty welcome, first thing parts parts parts, all bikes have problems including the big 4, the main thing is if parts are available. Second thing is will you be able to perform service and maint. on these bike's or will you have to take them somewhere, it is very hard to find people to fix these bike's the big shops don't want to waste there time (so if you can fix it properly it will be ok). As for jetmoto there bike's seam to be alright top of chinese manufacture is pushing the keys a little to far, they are carb approved, so this means you can get a green sticker in Ca. bad part is there tech info is on the bad side ( not much help better to come here and ask questions) All these bikes have little issues as to nuts and bolts, but you can ussualy work them out after the first couple of rides then they are ok with minor adj. here and there. you do need to check them before every trip, but I do that with our honda's to. if you would like to check some out let me know and you can come by and see one were in Orange County Ca. I would not buy anything unless you can see it and test it for youself.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

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Toshkitty welcome, first thing parts parts parts, all bikes have problems including the big 4, the main thing is if parts are available. Second thing is will you be able to perform service and maint. on these bike's or will you have to take them somewhere, it is very hard to find people to fix these bike's the big shops don't want to waste there time (so if you can fix it properly it will be ok). As for jetmoto there bike's seam to be alright top of chinese manufacture is pushing the keys a little to far, they are carb approved, so this means you can get a green sticker in Ca. bad part is there tech info is on the bad side ( not much help better to come here and ask questions) All these bikes have little issues as to nuts and bolts, but you can ussualy work them out after the first couple of rides then they are ok with minor adj. here and there. you do need to check them before every trip, but I do that with our honda's to. if you would like to check some out let me know and you can come by and see one were in Orange County Ca. I would not buy anything unless you can see it and test it for youself.

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Here is another salesman at work. Why would toshkitty travel 500 miles from Chico, Ca. just to see your Jetmotos? Wouldn't it be closer for him to go to Jetmoto or find a local dealer?

These Chinese quads require constant maintenance if you do not put threadlocker on all your nuts and bolts. Now as far as my Japanese bikes go I have yet to re-tighten any loose bolts from the date of purchase. They have only required the normal monthly maintenance, ie: oil & filter changes.

Not only that I do not see you giving any advise as to what level of experience the rider should be for these quads or an honest opinion on what the quads can handle which mywifesquad does here in the forums and he is one of Jetmoto's upgrade specialist/engineers.

Let me ask you a few questions:

1) What level of rider do you suggest these quads are for?
2) How much stress/abuse do you think these quads can take before the frame bends or cracks?
3) Do you have video of the quads performance?
4) Do you allow future customers to "test" out the bikes? You stated and I quote "I would not buy anything unless you can see it and test it out yourself". Is this test ride in the parking lot? Or is it on a dirt track?

Anyways here again someone who slips in here to try and make a sale.

One last note, toshkitty was looking for comments from owner's of the 200cc Jetmoto's, not a sales pitch from a dealer. i.e.: come on down to my shop and check it out...

SB.

 

Interesting observation smb05. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

Dear smbo5 quit reading between the lines of my post. nowhere on there does it say that I'm a dealer or a salesman' i'm not , nor do I care were chico Ca. is wheter it is 50 miles or a 100 miles I was just offering if he wants to come by. yes I do have a shop I build restaraunt interiors for places like Olive Garden and Red Lobster and so on. I have sold and rode many different chinese motorcycle's, but have never have been a dealer nor do I want to. (no money in it they sell to cheap) I just ride and play around with them thats all. I like fiddling with them more than anything.

to answer your questions,

1. these quads are for biginer level if I put my 17yr old son on these bikes it would be broke in no time. if I put my 18yr old daughter on it it will last a long time.

2. it all depends on who's riding you can bash anything that is why parts are important.

3. I will say it again i'm not a dealer so I don't have a performance video, but I have some cool video's of or family riding.

4. the only future customers I have are in the restaraunt biz. yes you can come by and take it for a spin if you'd like, but we do not have these for sale on site and yes you would have to ride it in the industrial plaza as there is not to many dirt lots in O.C. and the one's there are you will get a nice trespassing ticket.

5. if I pay 1500 or so for a bike i might expect to have a few problem, and if I pay 6000 for a jap bike and have problems I would be a little upset always remember you get what you pay for.

I hope this answers your questions on me. next time you might want to know what your talking about before you try and bash people. some people are just trying to be friendly, but with people like you around it makes it hard, and next time you quote someone at least get it right (i.e.: come on down to my shop and check it out...) (if you would like to check some out let me know and you can come by and see one ) notice the ONE not SHOP.

next time you decide to bash somebody you might want to know what your talking about first, so you don't look like such a fool. I agree these chinese bike's need a little more work then the japs, but the price is right and just because you have had your problems doesn't mean the rest of us have. I guees this is what you get from some people for trying to help.