You could say the same thing by saying "You chose to ride a motorcycle, so **** on you." Or how about "You chose to drive an old car and not the highest safety rated car, so we'll let you rot on the side of the road.". At what point are you going to draw the line? With this slippery slope logic, the only ones worthy of care are the ones who took every possible step to be safe... including 4 wheels, 5 star safety rating, full crash gear including flame-retardant suit, perfect vision, in the prime of their life with excellent reaction times, and being well rested. If the poor sap didn't go to every conceivable length to be safe, then to hell with him.

You may see it one way, but what gives you the right to force your views on someone else? If someone wants to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, you should be happy they're exercising they're right to choice... even if you don't agree. If you see a giant fatass with a big jug of soda, you should be happy that we have the right to eat ourselves to death in this country. And when you get sick or hurt, you have the right to medical care just like anyone else.

Most people are overweight in the US and food can be argued as the #1 reason you'll tax the medical system. Helmets.... not even a fraction of a drop in the bucket.

Sugar causes diabetes, heart disease, dental issues, and a whole long list of ailments. Ban sugar. Its 1000000000000000000 times a bigger deal than helmets.

 

I think its a ploy to get more ticket money out of you under the guise of safety. If you don't wear a helmet, you'll probably die and cost the state less money.

Around here we had an exception to the seat belt law. If you drive a pickup, you don't have to wear a seatbelt. After the 2008 crash, the law was changed to get more money.

In New Hampshire, there was no seat belt law. After 2008, there is. When states need more money, they make new laws so they can fine you more.

 

Here are your real men
When someone employs me to ride motorcycles, then they have the right to tell me what saftey equipment I must wear. Or, I have a right to complain about lack of safety.

If I'm out climbing buildings on my own free time, OSHA can't say a thing.

 

Pretty sure there is to-date no helmet law in NH for motorcycles. Remember a license is a privlage not a right. When you sign for your license you are signing a contract and you can not negotiate.

 

Yea, they are real men for sure !!!
You do raise a good point about employment.
If you ride strictly on your property do what you want, safe or not . When you ride public and or other private property there is a liability risk for the owner. I'm not trying to argue. Just playing a little devils advocate and theory vs. reality.

 

Don't need a license for an atv or dirt bike or even a bicycle, but helmets are often required anyway.

That's how we learn

My point was and is that people favor a nanny state forcing things they agree with and do anyway, but complain when the state takes the next logical step that ends up being an inconvenience.

I think that's why Ben Franklin said when you trade freedom for security you get neither. Once you go down that road, its hard to go back without complete revolution and starting a brand new gov all over again. Give the gov and inch, they will take a mile and you won't get it back.

 

Tell nanny to ban salt!

More fatal food: Salty diets leading to 2.3M deaths each year

Read more: More fatal food: Salty diets leading to 2.3M deaths each year | CTV News

 

Look on the labels of a lot of pre package food. Sodium can be as high as 1600 mgs or more. A lot of companies are blending sodium with potassium lactate as a means of lowering sodium intake as the body can absorb higher levels of potassium. But as my doctor said one of the final chemicals use in lethal injections is Potassium Chloride as it's good on stopping the heart. Chemicals are gonna get you one way or another unless you hunt your own meat and grow your own vegetables and throw the salt shaker away

 

When it comes down to it, bad laws are laws that require us to protect ourselves. Good law penalizes someone for abridging the rights of or harming someone else's life and/or property.

It seems to me that every time the government mandates something it ends up costing us more and more money. Things like air bags, anti-lock brakes, tire pressure monitoring systems, etc. add thousands of dollars of costs to new vehicles. We have no choice in the matter. Do I think they save lives? Yes. Do I think they should be mandatory? No. It should be up to the market to decide not the government.

I choose to use a seat belt, love abs, use a helmet 98% of the time riding my quad, etc. Being told that I have to just annoys me.

 

Sounds like the gov needs to step in and mandate low sodium content in food since people aren't smart enough nor do they care to read the labels and make a decision.

Sounds right to me.

Except ABS. I blame ABS for an accident I had in the snow. If one wheel locks, the ABS kicks in. I wouldn't want it to kick in until all 4 wheels lock. Just because one wheel is locked up, doesn't mean the other 3 won't have more stopping ability. I disconnect ABS on all my vehicles and remove the light bulb.