My Predator vs. several yamahas and hondas
#31
02-07-2006, 03:40 PM
My Predator vs. several yamahas and hondas
Originally posted by: counterpunch
If indeed the Predator makes 45 hp, then that is more than a YFZ. In fact, it is quite a bit more. I can't find the issue, but in a recent shootout in believe they dyno'd the '06 YFZ at 33 or 35 HP.
Originally posted by: SandmanBlue
This is quite confusing to me. I can't quite understand how a pred with a stated 45 rwhp and weighing in at well over 400 lbs is going to be faster than a YFZ that weighs 50 - 60 lbs less and makes 3 - 4 more hp
This is quite confusing to me. I can't quite understand how a pred with a stated 45 rwhp and weighing in at well over 400 lbs is going to be faster than a YFZ that weighs 50 - 60 lbs less and makes 3 - 4 more hp
See the dynos at http://www.gtthunder.com/YFZ450.html and specifically this one http://www.gtthunder.com/YfzDyno8.html
I just don't see how it is possible and I have not seen it in person either. My '04 Raptor with pipe/cam/jetting/airbox was supposed to only make about 48 hp, and I would get beat by my buddies yfz with above mods by about 1 quad length on Olds hill, yet I'd wax any pred I ran into. Unless this guy is talking about races where the other people a) don't know how to ride, b) blow the start or c) have their jetting fubar'd, then there's just no logical reason for his experience. I could definitely see how he could be racing people that don't know how to ride, I see that all the time. You get the wannabe's that won't hold WOT through the whoops at the base of the hills. If they can't even do that, then it's not a fiar race to begin with...
Funny thing about polenkis owners is that they like to start threads making claims about how fast their preds are. I don't see the same things nearly as often on the yamahondazukiwaki forums.
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02-07-2006, 04:10 PM
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My Predator vs. several yamahas and hondas
Originally posted by: predator311
First race was against a stock 660 raptor and well lets just say I beat him pretty bad. Next race was against a pretty heavily modded 660r. I can say he had full exhaust, intake, and jetted at the least. He also had 450r suspension and more. Me and him were pretty much neck and neck, I had him by about 1/2 a bike length. We raced two times same thing each time. Next race was against a piped only 2005 yamaha 450. I beat him by 3 lengths both times we raced. He had nothing to say about it. Next race was against a 2006 honda 450 with an hrc kit on it. He was bragging about how fast it was so I raced him too. I beat him the first time by like 5 lengths and then we did one more and I beat him by about 3 lengths. He was very shocked to see how fast the predator was. One of my last races was against the same 700r I had lost to when my bike had the hardrock intake mod. He has a full exhaust and k@n filter. Last time we raced he waxed me bad. This time we raced quite a few times and he beat me by about a 1 length each time. I was pretty stoked that my tuning had made such a difference. On a side note each race was on the street from a first gear roll. I had to roll into the gas in first and second because the front came up hard everytime. Needless to say I was very happy with the results of the races. I raced alot today and didnt even mention a few of my races. I only lost to one though!!!!!!!!!! All quads were fast and all gave me respect for my predator. The dude in the honda was really blown away, and said that he never knew the predator was that fast. I know everyone is gonna say it had to do with rider but like I said they were all on the pavement so no EXCUSES. Damn 700r was fast!!!!!!!
First race was against a stock 660 raptor and well lets just say I beat him pretty bad. Next race was against a pretty heavily modded 660r. I can say he had full exhaust, intake, and jetted at the least. He also had 450r suspension and more. Me and him were pretty much neck and neck, I had him by about 1/2 a bike length. We raced two times same thing each time. Next race was against a piped only 2005 yamaha 450. I beat him by 3 lengths both times we raced. He had nothing to say about it. Next race was against a 2006 honda 450 with an hrc kit on it. He was bragging about how fast it was so I raced him too. I beat him the first time by like 5 lengths and then we did one more and I beat him by about 3 lengths. He was very shocked to see how fast the predator was. One of my last races was against the same 700r I had lost to when my bike had the hardrock intake mod. He has a full exhaust and k@n filter. Last time we raced he waxed me bad. This time we raced quite a few times and he beat me by about a 1 length each time. I was pretty stoked that my tuning had made such a difference. On a side note each race was on the street from a first gear roll. I had to roll into the gas in first and second because the front came up hard everytime. Needless to say I was very happy with the results of the races. I raced alot today and didnt even mention a few of my races. I only lost to one though!!!!!!!!!! All quads were fast and all gave me respect for my predator. The dude in the honda was really blown away, and said that he never knew the predator was that fast. I know everyone is gonna say it had to do with rider but like I said they were all on the pavement so no EXCUSES. Damn 700r was fast!!!!!!!
#33
02-07-2006, 04:45 PM
My Predator vs. several yamahas and hondas
DING DING DING we have a winner. The rider is key!! I have beat other bikes switched riders and beat my own bike. Then theres times mine is just plane faster. No matter what we are talking about 1-3HP between all players.
I will say my pred was a slug until I added few mods. I can see a stock Pred losing it's **** to any 450 stock. Pipe, jetting, filter and so on only levels the playing field. I do beleive the pred reacts better to those simple mods than the YFZ or 450 R. Between the to 450's the Yama seems to beat the Honda.
In a few month the new Suzuki will be out and the claims will start again this time between Yamaha, Honda, and suzuki.
If you do beat a competetor pat yourself on the back and find somebody else to play with. WE ALL enjoy riding and are proud of what we ride. This is something we all have in common.
I remember riding my new Worrior back when the were the kings and riding with someone with a honda 185s. It never mattered what we road as long as we could ride.
Shawn
I will say my pred was a slug until I added few mods. I can see a stock Pred losing it's **** to any 450 stock. Pipe, jetting, filter and so on only levels the playing field. I do beleive the pred reacts better to those simple mods than the YFZ or 450 R. Between the to 450's the Yama seems to beat the Honda.
In a few month the new Suzuki will be out and the claims will start again this time between Yamaha, Honda, and suzuki.
If you do beat a competetor pat yourself on the back and find somebody else to play with. WE ALL enjoy riding and are proud of what we ride. This is something we all have in common.
I remember riding my new Worrior back when the were the kings and riding with someone with a honda 185s. It never mattered what we road as long as we could ride.
Shawn
#34
02-07-2006, 05:07 PM
My Predator vs. several yamahas and hondas
Hey bro, I hate when other brands come on to the Polaris site and bash and brag about how they smoked or towed a Polaris, they look foolish. It's cool to let your fellow Polarisis know how you smoked other brands, but just makes you look foolish on other brands sites. By the way, I took an Arctic Cat 650 in the mud, had to pull him out. Although he did beat me in a drag race by about 3-5 quad lengths at about 100 yards. You won't see me bragging on the Arctic Cat forum. Just my opinion.
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02-07-2006, 05:18 PM
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My Predator vs. several yamahas and hondas
Originally posted by: redmtn
Hey bro, I hate when other brands come on to the Polaris site and bash and brag about how they smoked or towed a Polaris, they look foolish. It's cool to let your fellow Polarisis know how you smoked other brands, but just makes you look foolish on other brands sites. By the way, I took an Arctic Cat 650 in the mud, had to pull him out. Although he did beat me in a drag race by about 3-5 quad lengths at about 100 yards. You won't see me bragging on the Arctic Cat forum. Just my opinion.
Hey bro, I hate when other brands come on to the Polaris site and bash and brag about how they smoked or towed a Polaris, they look foolish. It's cool to let your fellow Polarisis know how you smoked other brands, but just makes you look foolish on other brands sites. By the way, I took an Arctic Cat 650 in the mud, had to pull him out. Although he did beat me in a drag race by about 3-5 quad lengths at about 100 yards. You won't see me bragging on the Arctic Cat forum. Just my opinion.
I was trying to make him look less foolish.
Im not sure if it worked or not.
#36
02-07-2006, 05:25 PM
My Predator vs. several yamahas and hondas
Originally posted by: redmtn
Hey bro, I hate when other brands come on to the Polaris site and bash and brag about how they smoked or towed a Polaris, they look foolish. It's cool to let your fellow Polarisis know how you smoked other brands, but just makes you look foolish on other brands sites. By the way, I took an Arctic Cat 650 in the mud, had to pull him out. Although he did beat me in a drag race by about 3-5 quad lengths at about 100 yards. You won't see me bragging on the Arctic Cat forum. Just my opinion.
Hey bro, I hate when other brands come on to the Polaris site and bash and brag about how they smoked or towed a Polaris, they look foolish. It's cool to let your fellow Polarisis know how you smoked other brands, but just makes you look foolish on other brands sites. By the way, I took an Arctic Cat 650 in the mud, had to pull him out. Although he did beat me in a drag race by about 3-5 quad lengths at about 100 yards. You won't see me bragging on the Arctic Cat forum. Just my opinion.
#37
02-07-2006, 05:45 PM
My Predator vs. several yamahas and hondas
if you guys wanted to you could all argue for the rest of your lives and never have an "actual" winner.. i think its almost impossible..every day there is more stuff coming out for all sorts of different quads and every day the riders on them are getting better. you also have to take in comparison how many people own each type of quad.. lets say 100 people have yfz's 100 have raptors, and 5 have predators. of course the probability is kinda slim for the predators.
just some brain food.
just some brain food.
#38
02-07-2006, 07:03 PM
My Predator vs. several yamahas and hondas
Originally posted by: redmtn
Hey bro, I hate when other brands come on to the Polaris site and bash and brag about how they smoked or towed a Polaris, they look foolish. It's cool to let your fellow Polarisis know how you smoked other brands, but just makes you look foolish on other brands sites. By the way, I took an Arctic Cat 650 in the mud, had to pull him out. Although he did beat me in a drag race by about 3-5 quad lengths at about 100 yards. You won't see me bragging on the Arctic Cat forum. Just my opinion.
Hey bro, I hate when other brands come on to the Polaris site and bash and brag about how they smoked or towed a Polaris, they look foolish. It's cool to let your fellow Polarisis know how you smoked other brands, but just makes you look foolish on other brands sites. By the way, I took an Arctic Cat 650 in the mud, had to pull him out. Although he did beat me in a drag race by about 3-5 quad lengths at about 100 yards. You won't see me bragging on the Arctic Cat forum. Just my opinion.
Exactly i agree... thats why moderators moved his post from the yamaha forum to polaris forum....to make him look less foolish.
#39
02-07-2006, 07:55 PM
My Predator vs. several yamahas and hondas
Originally posted by: predator311
First race was against a stock 660 raptor and well lets just say I beat him pretty bad. Next race was against a pretty heavily modded 660r. I can say he had full exhaust, intake, and jetted at the least. He also had 450r suspension and more. Me and him were pretty much neck and neck, I had him by about 1/2 a bike length. We raced two times same thing each time. Next race was against a piped only 2005 yamaha 450. I beat him by 3 lengths both times we raced. He had nothing to say about it. Next race was against a 2006 honda 450 with an hrc kit on it. He was bragging about how fast it was so I raced him too. I beat him the first time by like 5 lengths and then we did one more and I beat him by about 3 lengths. He was very shocked to see how fast the predator was. One of my last races was against the same 700r I had lost to when my bike had the hardrock intake mod. He has a full exhaust and k@n filter. Last time we raced he waxed me bad. This time we raced quite a few times and he beat me by about a 1 length each time. I was pretty stoked that my tuning had made such a difference. On a side note each race was on the street from a first gear roll. I had to roll into the gas in first and second because the front came up hard everytime. Needless to say I was very happy with the results of the races. I raced alot today and didnt even mention a few of my races. I only lost to one though!!!!!!!!!! All quads were fast and all gave me respect for my predator. The dude in the honda was really blown away, and said that he never knew the predator was that fast. I know everyone is gonna say it had to do with rider but like I said they were all on the pavement so no EXCUSES. Damn 700r was fast!!!!!!!
First race was against a stock 660 raptor and well lets just say I beat him pretty bad. Next race was against a pretty heavily modded 660r. I can say he had full exhaust, intake, and jetted at the least. He also had 450r suspension and more. Me and him were pretty much neck and neck, I had him by about 1/2 a bike length. We raced two times same thing each time. Next race was against a piped only 2005 yamaha 450. I beat him by 3 lengths both times we raced. He had nothing to say about it. Next race was against a 2006 honda 450 with an hrc kit on it. He was bragging about how fast it was so I raced him too. I beat him the first time by like 5 lengths and then we did one more and I beat him by about 3 lengths. He was very shocked to see how fast the predator was. One of my last races was against the same 700r I had lost to when my bike had the hardrock intake mod. He has a full exhaust and k@n filter. Last time we raced he waxed me bad. This time we raced quite a few times and he beat me by about a 1 length each time. I was pretty stoked that my tuning had made such a difference. On a side note each race was on the street from a first gear roll. I had to roll into the gas in first and second because the front came up hard everytime. Needless to say I was very happy with the results of the races. I raced alot today and didnt even mention a few of my races. I only lost to one though!!!!!!!!!! All quads were fast and all gave me respect for my predator. The dude in the honda was really blown away, and said that he never knew the predator was that fast. I know everyone is gonna say it had to do with rider but like I said they were all on the pavement so no EXCUSES. Damn 700r was fast!!!!!!!
#40
02-07-2006, 08:39 PM
My Predator vs. several yamahas and hondas
Did somebody comment on looking foolish. This whole thing is why Ricky Carmicheal is better than everyone else.
Here one, Saturday at Gordons Well I watched my friends 400EX beat a 450R. The Moron on the 450 needed a trailblazer 250 because he sure couldn't ride.
We should just cut this thread short because we are beating a dead horse. Next weekend lets get every 450 out there and pin then against every predator. The results will be spread. Get over it and lets go ride!!
Here one, Saturday at Gordons Well I watched my friends 400EX beat a 450R. The Moron on the 450 needed a trailblazer 250 because he sure couldn't ride.
We should just cut this thread short because we are beating a dead horse. Next weekend lets get every 450 out there and pin then against every predator. The results will be spread. Get over it and lets go ride!!