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Sandman2.0 08-13-2008 11:04 AM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
Wondering if anyone has used the Walmart sealed batteries. I need a new battery for my 03 Trailboss and the price seems reasonable at $75.00. I did have a sealed Sears Die Hard in it and it really does not die hard but it did die...........lasted a little over a year.

scootergptx 08-13-2008 11:06 AM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
Bought one for my Trail Boss and one for the wife's Trail Blazer. Never had any issues with them at all.

wvu304 08-13-2008 11:23 AM

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i got one from the polaris dealer for $60

kukerdan 08-13-2008 11:59 AM

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you can get a nice interstate cycletron for
40-60 depending on your source.

Mine was used for a year, sat for a year, and works like a champ now that its back in the scrambler

TLC 08-13-2008 12:30 PM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
I bought the cheapest battery with the over flow tube, Walmart "Everstart" for my Snowmachine for $35 and it has worked great all last winter and it fired the sled right up after sittin for 4 months the other day.

ATVs with decompression can get by on cheaper batteries because they turn over easy and require less "Cranking Amps" Like 200A.

Big bores with no decompression such as the 660 Grizzly and 680 Rincon require a more expensive 250-300 CA (Cranking Amps) battery. A cheap 200 Ca or less battery will work but not for nearly as long or as good in cold conditions.

atv gooroo 08-13-2008 12:59 PM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
I use the Everstart battery too. I just bought some more tubing for about 3 bucks from tracter supply and routed the vent tube up with the rest of the vent tubes. Easy and cheaper.

slashsplat 08-13-2008 01:10 PM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
I have not had good luck with WalMart batteries.

I also hate sealed batteries and have had a few work poorly, only to PEEL back the hidden filler openings to find they were low on acid. A refill, and they were good to go. Seems that a lot of the "sealed" batteries are just regular ones with the fillers covered and inaccessible. They still lose juice, unlike a true sealed battery, like the Optimas, which I run in my diesel. (Yellow tops, AWESOME, survive a nuclear attack)

What DOES work really well is the BatteryTender device. It prevents sulfation (they say) and keeps the battery in good shape. Since I started using it I have had no battery failures. There is a Jr. model for less than $30 that works well with batteries that have a charge. This is a battery maintainer that will only do VERY slow charges. it is designed to KEEP the battery up, not as a quick charge. Perfect for long-term storage.

Remember, once a battery drops below a certain voltage, 11.89V, it can become unrecoverable! Best to NOT let them discharge.

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-13.htm

Scroll most of the way down for a chart of voltages.

Deerkiller 08-13-2008 01:52 PM

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I use the Walmart everstart non sealed. $27.00 ,keep the reciept and swap it out every 6 months. I seen to chew up batteries but Walmart is good about taking them back.
I too use the battery Tender Jr. Keeps the battery up in the cold. I plug it in every time i come in from plowing. the winches tear up the battery. I also top up the deep cycle battery on my pop up camper when I get home. Porsche battery too all winter in the garage. I've had it for 3 years or so and for $20.00 it was well worth it. I use it alot.
Deerkiller

blaster24 08-13-2008 03:25 PM

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I bought mine at auto zone last year cant remember the name but its a non sealed battery paid around 50$ for it and i use the trail boss year round and have no problems with it what so ever. I used it last deer season here in ohio pretty cold during muzzleloader season and it fired right up.Parked it after season until turkey season mid april and it fired rite up!

tRamsey 08-13-2008 03:37 PM

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I'm having almost the same problem with my '05 Sportsman 700 twin, that sandman2.0 is having. I've gone through 2 Wal-mart batteries & finally broke down & purchused a dealership battery for 116 bucks! The battery light blinks (indicating under/over charge) until you put a newly charged battery in. Then it runs fine for a few hours..... and then the battery light starts blinking again. I've read about an ECM Power Box, a Voltage Regulator, a Stator ...... What gives? Has anybody else encountered this? Recalls? My dealer just wants to charge me to tell me what's wrong with it. Can Anyone Help???

sassee 08-13-2008 04:00 PM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
Go with the cheap one from WalMart. The Trailboss doesn't need a lot of cranking amps and there is not much on it to pull power. I bought one for my 97 TrailBoss first of the year and no problems since. I did buy the expensive one for my Arctic Cat, but it has a winch on it so I thought I might need the extra amps sometime.

Sandman2.0 08-13-2008 05:12 PM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
Well, not a big fan of the lead/acid battery with vent pipes. The acid gets everywhere especially if the vent pipe gets yanked off by underbrush....A few bucks spent on a sealed battery is like that ounce of prevention/pound of cure thing. Thanks for the feedback all. Walmart is easy on the return policies and also 2 minutes from where I work.

Budman650 08-13-2008 07:34 PM

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I like the gel batteries for off road activities but the walmart batteries work just fine. Just make sure the vent tube is secure and the end is underneath so that acid won't splash on anything.
Like the other guys said, keep the receipt. I buy all my batteries from walmart. You can't beat the 3 year free replacement on car batts.

redmtn 08-13-2008 08:15 PM

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A few years ago, I bought a Walmart sealed battery for my SeaDoo Watercraft. It lasted just one season. I even hooked it up to a Battery Tender after each ride. I don't think Walmart had the three year warranty at the time. Recently I purchased a Walmart battery for one of my cars, with the three year warranty. So far no problems. With my ATV, I think I would go with the same one I have had for 2 1/2 years now with no problems at all. A three year warranty doesn't help you if you're stranded miles away from help.

Budman650 08-13-2008 08:40 PM

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the 3 year warranty is on car batteries, not atv, as stated.
any mileage, any vehicle, any time frame doesn't help either if your stranded miles away
redmtn, so what is the battery that your atv has?

Dearlh 08-13-2008 08:42 PM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]Funny this topic came up now. Just this afternoon I was at my dealership talking to service about my atv. He said if you use any other aftermarket battery other than a Polaris oem, they will start causing electrical problems. He had no explaination why just that they see this problem alot. I'm doubtful as long as you have correct voltage. But then again, My friend has a "04 500ho, he put a AGM Batteries Plus battery in last fall then last month while we were riding everything went dead. Hot electrical smell up front, cdi box?? was melted and he spent $130.00 to replace it. I have that same battery in mine since early june, now mine is not starting (firing) not sure yet if I have fuel or spark issues. Anyone ever heard this before??????? Thanks

old polaris tech 08-13-2008 10:17 PM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
Our dealership has had best service from Yuasa and Interstate Cycletron. Changed a lot of Wally World batteries that didnt last. Just my 2 cents worth. They cost more,but in most machines last longer. We also sell Bikemaster from Parts Unlimited,not a bad battery,but not in same league with Yuasa.

caperinmuskoka 08-13-2008 11:06 PM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
Does Yuasa make the batteries for Polaris?
......Caper........

Budman650 08-13-2008 11:08 PM

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Dearlh

[img][/img]Funny this topic came up now. Just this afternoon I was at my dealership talking to service about my atv. He said if you use any other aftermarket battery other than a Polaris oem, they will start causing electrical problems. He had no explaination why just that they see this problem alot. I'm doubtful as long as you have correct voltage. But then again, My friend has a "04 500ho, he put a AGM Batteries Plus battery in last fall then last month while we were riding everything went dead. Hot electrical smell up front, cdi box?? was melted and he spent $130.00 to replace it. I have that same battery in mine since early june, now mine is not starting (firing) not sure yet if I have fuel or spark issues. Anyone ever heard this before??????? Thanks</end quote></div>
I'm surprised OPT didn't reply to this unless he thinks it's just hogwash.
A battery is used for starting and supplies enough voltage for starter, spark, etc and the charging system kicks in with regulator and supplies more voltage than the battery, so there must have been a different problem.
This sounds like car dealers when you bring your car in for service and they ask what mods you did. Seems you can't even change the tire size these days without them denying a claim. One time they asked if I installed a K&N filter and the MAFS wouldn't be covered. I now keep all OEM filters for my vehicles and pull out the K&N when I bring a vehicle in for warranty.

deerwagon 08-13-2008 11:08 PM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
I use the "battery tender" as well - works great. I bought my battery at "batteries plus" for $60 and it has 250cca.

http://www.batteriesplus.com/m...atteries/Polaris.aspx


Spend the x-tra $30 for the tender - it prolongs your battery life 2-3 fold.

Sealed Batteries Can't Overflow - They just EXPLODE, lol

old polaris tech 08-13-2008 11:26 PM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Budman650

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Dearlh



[IMG][/IMG]Funny this topic came up now. Just this afternoon I was at my dealership talking to service about my atv. He said if you use any other aftermarket battery other than a Polaris oem, they will start causing electrical problems. He had no explaination why just that they see this problem alot. I'm doubtful as long as you have correct voltage. But then again, My friend has a "04 500ho, he put a AGM Batteries Plus battery in last fall then last month while we were riding everything went dead. Hot electrical smell up front, cdi box?? was melted and he spent $130.00 to replace it. I have that same battery in mine since early june, now mine is not starting (firing) not sure yet if I have fuel or spark issues. Anyone ever heard this before??????? Thanks</end quote></div>

I'm surprised OPT didn't reply to this unless he thinks it's just hogwash.

A battery is used for starting and supplies enough voltage for starter, spark, etc and the charging system kicks in with regulator and supplies more voltage than the battery, so there must have been a different problem.

This sounds like car dealers when you bring your car in for service and they ask what mods you did. Seems you can't even change the tire size these days without them denying a claim. One time they asked if I installed a K&N filter and the MAFS wouldn't be covered. I now keep all OEM filters for my vehicles and pull out the K&N when I bring a vehicle in for warranty.</end quote></div>

Its not the voltage BUT wrong amperage than can cause problems! Thats why NEVER jump from a car battery while running,CAN cause problems! Same thing applies on replacement batteries, thats why they make a thousand different ones for different applications!

Budman650 08-13-2008 11:43 PM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
If dearlh had a charging system problem with the wrong amps being put out then that would be a problem with the charging system, not battery as the dealer suggested. If the battery was too low cca rated, then most likely the starter would burn out. I've never heard of someone putting in a higher cold crank amp battery and burning anything out unless the fault of something else in the system!

old polaris tech 08-14-2008 12:37 AM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
Too much amperage CAN and will cause electrical problems,not necessarily with starters,but SENSITIVE elec components! Have had it happen. I had one guy put a lawnmower battery in a 95 SL750 watercraft and fried everything in the control box! It takes a 16 amp battery,not a 30 amp battery! Same applies to atvs. cdis can fry,regulator/rectifiers can short out,undercharging or no charging or even over charging. Just not work the risk.

Dearlh 08-14-2008 12:57 AM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]Yep I run a battery tender always as well, maybe that's why I got 5 years out of my oem battery even with running all my other electrical acc. and winch while plowing. As far as aftermarket ones go, I have the exact replacement battery shown for my model in the book and it cross references with the other mfg. #'s so I'm sure I have the right one. I think my dealer guy just says s&%$ like that cause THEY want to sell you a battery.

deerwagon 08-14-2008 02:01 AM

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I would like to know from OTP what he thinks of "jumpboxes"? I completely agree with you on the amps. Amps; This is how much electricity flows to the corresponding receiver. Volts and CCA don't mean a thing as far as how many amps the corresponding parts are meant to receive.

What about jumpboxes, I would believe that they are not good for jumping as well. ???? But they are the most effective!!!!

Williebee 08-14-2008 03:05 AM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
The Dealers all say the same thing , that O.E.M. are the only way to go after all that money in their pocket ; i've tried Sears Die Hard batteries and they weren't cheap with only a 90 day replacement that didn't last over a year before needing a replcement !

The last battery i replaced in my old 86' Honda TRX350 4x4 and a 93 Suzuki LT4WD 300 KQ with a battery from Auto Zone , and they were still starting the quads 5 yrs. later ; i just used a battery tender when they would sit up for 3 to 4 weeks or more and they both still start for my brother i sold them to and the Honda has a Super wintch thats used a lot !

My 2006 AC 400 Auto FIS 4x4 stills has the original battery and sits up some time a month at a time in between rides , but today i tried to take a ride and it started once and stalled and wouldn't restart ; so i put the battery tender on it for a slow overnight trickle charge i'll see if it starts in the morning !......

Budman650 08-14-2008 09:11 AM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
There must be something sensitive with the cdi unit, rectifiers and amps. Sorry for the mis-info. I've always put larger batteries in my vehicles, boats and even multiple batteries in the rv. The gen set in the rv has never had a problem with 3 12v deep cycle batteries wired together. Here is some reading material.
http://www.indiacar.com/infobank/battery.htm

http://jgdarden.com/batteryfaq/carfaq7.htm

old polaris tech 08-14-2008 11:54 PM

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: deerwagon

I would like to know from OTP what he thinks of "jumpboxes"? I completely agree with you on the amps. Amps; This is how much electricity flows to the corresponding receiver. Volts and CCA don't mean a thing as far as how many amps the corresponding parts are meant to receive.



What about jumpboxes, I would believe that they are not good for jumping as well. ???? But they are the most effective!!!!</end quote></div>

[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]Very articulate! What I wanted to say,but just and old opt and not smart enough to verbalize! Jump boxes are used to deliver Rangers and Razors with no batteries! ok to use,JUST dont disconnect while running! havent had any problems so far,but I dont take anything for granted anymore!

Budman650 08-15-2008 09:54 AM

Walmart sealed batteries
 
This was the answer I received from the director of engineering at Yuasa batteries;

No problem as you can't have too much capacity in the sense that
you will damage a vehicle or the vehicle's electrical system. What you
may have is a situation where you spend more money for larger battery
(higher capacity) than you actually need. The larger battery may not
necessarily last any longer then a smaller battery. However, additional
capacities (cranking and reserve) can be helpful where addition
electrical accessories are added to the vehicle or where operating the
vehicle in extreme cold environments.

old polaris tech 08-15-2008 10:24 PM

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I agree ONLY partially what the engineer says,just as I agree only partially sometimes with our Polaris engineers,BUT they are not the ones that see the melted components or have to replace them.


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