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Paxman Merv 03-06-2018 11:37 AM

He broke it!
 
Customer called today, got a Polaris Magnum 500HDS thats fallen apart.
No problem, bring it in & we will see what we can do. Very unceremoniously delivered it in the front bucket of his loader. Sure enough, he has broken it!


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scootergptx 03-06-2018 11:46 AM

That's going to require a serious amount of duct tape.

Paxman Merv 03-06-2018 12:53 PM

Damn right! needs a bit more than a bit of T cut.. Priced up the parts & very near the value of the bike.. Make things worse, he had his own stolen so he borrowed this off his father in law....OOOOOOOO......

user493 03-06-2018 01:38 PM

I believe you're right, that does look broken. I don't think you'll be able to buff that out.

old polaris tech 03-06-2018 02:17 PM

I'm having a Hurricane Andrew flash back.. :) Back in 92 had a Grand Prairie Tx based company that had bought several Big Boss 6x6s bring me one that had been tossed around a bit when Andrew hit Florida. I tried to talk them out of trying to repair it and just buy a new one,but oh no,they wouldn't have it. Ended up costing almost as much as a new one when I got through. They hauled that blamed thing in 3 pieces. I feel your pain believe me I do.. :nod:

Paxman Merv 03-06-2018 03:50 PM

wouldn’t be so bad if he hadn’t broken this..... https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/atvconn...c95039351.jpeg

old polaris tech 03-06-2018 04:26 PM

Nothing that new cases or a complete gear case assembly couldn't fix.. :) Sure does put a strain on the budget and a lot of times on family relations.That seemed to be the hardest part on borrowed machines. Plus I've had people try to get me in the middle of these type events and I learned real quick,stay neutral and out of it.Let em hash things out then get back to you on what they want to do..

HawkeyeRider 03-06-2018 08:30 PM

Duck tape isn't going to work. Gonna have to break out the JB Weld!!!:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

user493 03-06-2018 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by HawkeyeRider (Post 3388013)
Duck tape isn't going to work. Gonna have to break out the JB Weld!!!:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

:lmao: My friend works miracles with JB Weld, but even miracles have limits. :lmao:

scootergptx 03-07-2018 06:16 AM

Had part of the overhead console in my truck break. Took out a section of plastic. So I put duct tape across that and then filled it in with jb weld.

Can't see it, and it doesn't know it's broke any more.

kartmaster 03-07-2018 09:06 AM

That's some Wiley Coyote stuff there!

Paxman Merv 03-08-2018 02:41 AM

Get this.... Chap had a walk around the field where it broke & came back with swinging arm bearings & adjuster bolts.. Says they should clean up so use them not new... Anyhow, got a new trans unit coming, not cheap & about to start stripping out the old one. Any hints, tips, things to look out for when removing the main axle shaft? all very much appreciated!

old polaris tech 03-08-2018 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paxman Merv (Post 3388124)
Get this.... Chap had a walk around the field where it broke & came back with swinging arm bearings & adjuster bolts.. Says they should clean up so use them not new... Anyhow, got a new trans unit coming, not cheap & about to start stripping out the old one. Any hints, tips, things to look out for when removing the main axle shaft? all very much appreciated!

If the parts he brings back are junk just order new ones.Loctite the pivot bolts(10,18) as this was a common problem,not on tearing the rear end out but having the swing arm pivot bolts work loose.MOST times people would notice this before the swing arm gave way.. IF the prop shaft coupler splines look worn replace the shaft assembly(16) A lot of parts to remove to get the drive shaft out like the parts break down shows. The manual does go into pretty good detail on this. I suppose this is a 2003 model(you didn't say)but here's a cheap 5 buck manual.2003 Polaris Magnum 500 Service Manual PDF Download

Paxman Merv 03-08-2018 06:00 AM

My guess he didnt spot the pin coming loose..
Anyway, thanks for the pic, my guess is take the axle tube off & drive the axle out the opposite way?..
Reckon i will find out soon enough!
Oxy-Acetylene & a big hammer gets most things apart!

old polaris tech 03-08-2018 02:36 PM

Best I can remember is the drive shaft comes out the right side. It has a larger area on the drive shaft that butts against the case bearing.

Paxman Merv 03-09-2018 02:26 AM

Perfect!
will give it a whack & see what happens! :)

user493 03-09-2018 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Paxman Merv (Post 3388229)
Perfect!
will give it a whack & see what happens! :)

If I have a big enough hammer I can fix anything. ;)

WilliamBos 03-10-2018 07:15 PM

Not even Gorilla tape can fix that.

MooseHenden 03-11-2018 05:52 PM

That's way beyond vise grips, hammer, and duct tape. Good luck.

user493 03-11-2018 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by MooseHenden (Post 3388420)
That's way beyond vise grips, hammer, and duct tape. Good luck.

That's when you need an ax and lots of strong wire or rope. Just cut a couple of limbs off a tree, and make a travois type of arrangement to keep the back end off the ground. Then let the front wheels drag you home. Native American Travois (Indian Drag Sleds for Dogs and Horses)

Decades ago my younger brother broke a ski in half on his snowmobile and did an endo when the back half of the ski dug in. He was okay but we both thought we were screwed. Fortunately my dad had a hatchet and black rebar wire in his snowmobile, that he used to make tree branch splints on both sides of the broken ski. My brother hung off the other side of the snowmobile and rode it all the way back to the cabin that way.

Rebar tie wire is annealed to be be softer than regular wire. You can twist it and twist without breaking like other wires, but it does has it's limits. I carry some in the glove box of my truck and gave my friend some to carry in his ATV, which he used one time when I wasn't with him. He used a bunch to hold together another ATV with a broken tie rod, at least I think it was a tie rod that broke. Whatever it was that broke, our other friend was able to limp it back to camp, but they had to use all the wire to do it. No problem. I have a roll in my basement I used to restock them with. I bought hundreds of feet of it.

greg74 03-12-2018 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by MooseHenden (Post 3388420)
That's way beyond vise grips, hammer, and duct tape. Good luck.

Don't forget zip ties too.

user493 03-12-2018 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by greg74 (Post 3388538)
Don't forget zip ties too.

. . . or the bubble gum and bailing wire. :D

MooseHenden 03-13-2018 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by jumbofrank (Post 3388458)
That's when you need an ax and lots of strong wire or rope. Just cut a couple of limbs off a tree, and make a travois type of arrangement to keep the back end off the ground. Then let the front wheels drag you home. Native American Travois (Indian Drag Sleds for Dogs and Horses)

Decades ago my younger brother broke a ski in half on his snowmobile and did an endo when the back half of the ski dug in. He was okay but we both thought we were screwed. Fortunately my dad had a hatchet and black rebar wire in his snowmobile, that he used to make tree branch splints on both sides of the broken ski. My brother hung off the other side of the snowmobile and rode it all the way back to the cabin that way.

Rebar tie wire is annealed to be be softer than regular wire. You can twist it and twist without breaking like other wires, but it does has it's limits. I carry some in the glove box of my truck and gave my friend some to carry in his ATV, which he used one time when I wasn't with him. He used a bunch to hold together another ATV with a broken tie rod, at least I think it was a tie rod that broke. Whatever it was that broke, our other friend was able to limp it back to camp, but they had to use all the wire to do it. No problem. I have a roll in my basement I used to restock them with. I bought hundreds of feet of it.

We've had good luck with Gorilla duct tape and zip ties. We were able to limp two quads back to town after two separate breaks. One was a tie rod end on Specta's old Honda and the other was after I had an accident with the rental machine.


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