85 to 88 Suzuki LT230S Quadsport help.
#6881
This is true, atv manuals typically don't recommend using RTV. Most good engine builders also say not to use it.... Not because of leaks, but because it ***** up, comes off, and plugs oil jets. DansMc says to use Yamabond or whatever its called. Motorcycle Repair Course The suzuki manual says to use Suzuki Bond 1207B.
Personally, I've been using rtv for years on both cars and small engines. Never had an issue. I use the black rtv and very thin amounts. If it squeezes out the side, that's the amount you wasted and what could fall off inside the engine. I suppose if I was in the business of fixin engines, I would use the right stuff, but for what little I do, I'm not worried.
I'm not sure what anaerobic sealer is. That would seem to be a two-part epoxy type thing that you'd have to mix to activate. Otherwise, since there is no air inside the tube, it would harden on the shelf at the store.
Personally, I've been using rtv for years on both cars and small engines. Never had an issue. I use the black rtv and very thin amounts. If it squeezes out the side, that's the amount you wasted and what could fall off inside the engine. I suppose if I was in the business of fixin engines, I would use the right stuff, but for what little I do, I'm not worried.
I'm not sure what anaerobic sealer is. That would seem to be a two-part epoxy type thing that you'd have to mix to activate. Otherwise, since there is no air inside the tube, it would harden on the shelf at the store.
#6882
All the anaerobic sealant that I have used is in a single tube, it's red in color. looks like red jelly....
Anaerobic sealant does not "harden" like silicone will, it will stay gummy to a certain extent.
I have learn a bit about the different sealants out there, when I took my first year of apprenticeship, but do you think that I can remember that far back.... lol
Anaerobic sealant does not "harden" like silicone will, it will stay gummy to a certain extent.
I have learn a bit about the different sealants out there, when I took my first year of apprenticeship, but do you think that I can remember that far back.... lol
#6883
#6884
#6885
Looks like some pretty good stuff: https://tds.us.henkel.com//NA/UT/HNA...ile/518-EN.pdf
The only problem I see is it won't fill a large gap (bigger than .25mm), but that's not an issue with the nice smooth, flat surfaces of the 230 valve cover. Its stronger than rtv too.
Here's what I've been using: http://www.permatex.com/documents/td...tive/82180.pdf
And here is the permatex version of the anaerobic sealer: http://www.permatex.com/documents/td...tive/51531.pdf
Next time I'm at the store, I'll look for some anaerobic flange sealer and give it a shot.
Atvman, in light on this recent development, it would probably be prudent to change the "rtv" to something like "sealer of choice" or whatever you think it should be. Honestly, if we were talking I would just say "goop". Engines, roofing, fishtanks, windows.... Just goop it. "Goop" is descriptive enough, but doesn't have a product recommendation attached; thus, leaving the door open to further discussion on what kind of goop is best.
Anyway, thanks firstgen for pointing that out. Well done!
The only problem I see is it won't fill a large gap (bigger than .25mm), but that's not an issue with the nice smooth, flat surfaces of the 230 valve cover. Its stronger than rtv too.
Here's what I've been using: http://www.permatex.com/documents/td...tive/82180.pdf
And here is the permatex version of the anaerobic sealer: http://www.permatex.com/documents/td...tive/51531.pdf
Next time I'm at the store, I'll look for some anaerobic flange sealer and give it a shot.
Atvman, in light on this recent development, it would probably be prudent to change the "rtv" to something like "sealer of choice" or whatever you think it should be. Honestly, if we were talking I would just say "goop". Engines, roofing, fishtanks, windows.... Just goop it. "Goop" is descriptive enough, but doesn't have a product recommendation attached; thus, leaving the door open to further discussion on what kind of goop is best.
Anyway, thanks firstgen for pointing that out. Well done!
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#6887
My bayou developed a leak one time. It turned out the gasket had hardened and was brittle. There was so much torque from pulling trailer loads of dirt around all summer, that the gasket surfaces by the driveshaft moved and broke the seal. I wonder which sealant would be best in that situation? I know rtv is pretty springy. How does the anaerobic stuff perform?
I ended up using the black rtv... so far so good.
I ended up using the black rtv... so far so good.
#6889
I've been thinking about the common issues. Not sure where to draw the line actually.
The next most common problem is the steering stem. Seems everyone has had it break or has noticed welding which implies it had broken in the past. So, this should probably be right up there in terms of frequency with the CCOS.
The next most common problem is the steering stem. Seems everyone has had it break or has noticed welding which implies it had broken in the past. So, this should probably be right up there in terms of frequency with the CCOS.