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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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Alright guys this may be a tough one lol. Alright I bought one of these Chinese quads quite awhile ago when I was in fifth grade I think, I'm now in highschool and I know no not to buy things that aren't name brand and now I ride Honda dirtbikes mostly, now the bike is a 110cc Chinese quad and I couldn't tell you what brand because idk don't know. But when it is running its a fun little quad to beat up on, hut I really haven't done anything riff just riding around my yard. So when we first got the bike, it wouldn't ride for more than fifteen minutes without stalling we finally solved this problem when we had the jets on the bike drilled bigger. And the bike ran for a little while but we went through batteries like crazy. The bike will not charge them while its running and and by this point after one time in the bike a battery charger won't even charge them. Before this I found my self having to jump the bike to get it started almost ecerytome but now even when on full charge, the bike doesn't even turn over once it just does nothing or makes a rapid clicking sound. I've tried changing gas, cleaning the carb, I can't find any problems in the electrical wiring and before we solved the jetting problem I took apart the starter and after spending the time to put it all back together it did nothing so I don't really wanna waste my time doing that again cause I don't think it will do anything. So all help is wanted and if you have any questions feel free to ask and thanks for the help!
 
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 10:06 AM
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rapid clicking sound=solenoid. either you ain't got enough volts/amps to activate the plates to start the quad or it is bad.
battery, by this time, you have a dead/dry cell in that battery.
starter=you tested it on the ground and it didn't work? i'd say the starter is out then.
charging=won't charge while running? then i'd say either the stator is disconnected/unplugged somewhere, the stator output wiring is deficient somehow, or it's bad and has gone out and won't charge. but, if you still have spark, then part of it is at least working.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 10:50 AM
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rapid clicking sound=solenoid. either you ain't got enough volts/amps to activate the plates to start the quad or it is bad.
battery, by this time, you have a dead/dry cell in that battery.
starter=you tested it on the ground and it didn't work? i'd say the starter is out then.
charging=won't charge while running? then i'd say either the stator is disconnected/unplugged somewhere, the stator output wiring is deficient somehow, or it's bad and has gone out and won't charge. but, if you still have spark, then part of it is at least working.
Well like I said before I'm more of a dirtbike rider and mx bikes don't have anything electrical in them so i know really nothing about the electric, but I forgot to say also that the bike is a 110cc or maybe I did say that idk but before this happened the bike was running perfectly okay the day before and the next day it just clicked, but also like I mentioned the bike could never really hold a charge, we had to jump it ecerytome. But half of what you just said I don't understand because I know nothing ahout electrical so the dumbies guide to fixing this would be good, so thank you! And maybe you could help me understand that! Lol
 
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 02:47 PM
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a stator is as an alternator. savvy?
i believe it also has a pickup on it that helps with spark. i think, i'm a little fuzzy today.
solenoid has plates that come together to complete the circuit to send electricity to the starter via a key/button.
dead/dry cell-obviously self explanatory.
on your dirtbike, you have a magneto and helps to power your "electric" system.
do a search for LynnEdwards' posts, he's the residential electrical genius. his posts will explain in graphic detail.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaster94
a stator is as an alternator. savvy?
i believe it also has a pickup on it that helps with spark. i think, i'm a little fuzzy today.
solenoid has plates that come together to complete the circuit to send electricity to the starter via a key/button.
dead/dry cell-obviously self explanatory.
on your dirtbike, you have a magneto and helps to power your "electric" system.
do a search for LynnEdwards' posts, he's the residential electrical genius. his posts will explain in graphic detail.
Alright ill check that out thanks for the help! I'm about to go jump it off my truck and see what that does and if that doesn't I know where to go next
 
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaster94
a stator is as an alternator. savvy?
i believe it also has a pickup on it that helps with spark. i think, i'm a little fuzzy today.
solenoid has plates that come together to complete the circuit to send electricity to the starter via a key/button.
dead/dry cell-obviously self explanatory.
on your dirtbike, you have a magneto and helps to power your "electric" system.
do a search for LynnEdwards' posts, he's the residential electrical genius. his posts will explain in graphic detail.
Alright jumping it got it to turn over a tiny bit and no clicking so its not the silonoid or starter, but I tested to see if I was getting a spark and I was not so I started looking around and I found that the red positive wire coming strait off the battery was extremely hot and even started smoking at one point, so can you give me any advice on what to do? I know that a hot connection is a bad one but what does that mean I should do? Replace this wire? Follow it and see where it goes? I don't know alot but I believe it goes to the silonoid? It goes into a small cylinder and then a wire comes out of that and into the starter so I'm asuming thats what it is? So where should I go from there?
 
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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could be a couple of things, but yes you are correct, hot wires are indicative of either too small of gauge of wire for the service, or, loose connections, OR quite possibly, your inline fuse, if applicable, could be too large. so check all connections. make sure they're tight. you're correct, red wire from battery to solenoid to starter. one other thing, the battery, if having a dry cell, will cause even more resistance trying to jump the quad. nothing for the electricity to jump through. you really ought to replace the battery or at least refill the acid/water levels.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaster94
could be a couple of things, but yes you are correct, hot wires are indicative of either too small of gauge of wire for the service, or, loose connections, OR quite possibly, your inline fuse, if applicable, could be too large. so check all connections. make sure they're tight. you're correct, red wire from battery to solenoid to starter. one other thing, the battery, if having a dry cell, will cause even more resistance trying to jump the quad. nothing for the electricity to jump through. you really ought to replace the battery or at least refill the acid/water levels.
The battery is relatively new, but it doesn't really have a charge, and when I noticed the wire was hot and smoke came up I said I think the solenoid broke, because after that, I took off the rear fenders and checked the wire and it was all good, bot then I put it all back together and when I put battery on the truck to power it like I was doing before nothing happens, the brake light won't come on or anything, and its not even clicking like before just nothing. Now idk if its like this on all quads but my quad has the power going to the solenoid and then two wires output from there, one goes to the starter, and then another goes to the headlights (which by the way, worked for the firat couple days and then vome on everynow and the. For a brief moment hut ither than that dont work) and then then another wire that leads to the brake light, so all I can think of is the solenoid is bad, so I took the solenoid off and I'm going out of town and i know a shop up there who specializes on Chinese bikes (he's the guy who first got the bike running by drilling the jets) but I can't bring the quad itself and honestly I don't care enough to bring it its just a fun little beater. But anyway maybe that tells you the problem? You can save me from paying him a visit! And buying a new solenoid
 
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 07:15 PM
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does it have an inline fuse?
 
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