Well after thinking through what I use my Rancher for I came up with 75% trails and rocks and 25% mud. Then I started looking for an all around tire that would work with out over taxing my ride. There were quite a few choices, Blackwaters, Bear Claws, ect., but I wanted to try something new and have 6ply for puncture resistance. GBC (Dirt Devil) is replacing their 4ply with a 6ply and it currently comes in a 25-8-12, and 25-10-12. Since I have a set of Foreman 450 rims that bolt right up I thought I would try them. They cost about $250 all inclusive ( tax, shipping, ect). Had to make sure that I got the new 6plys! I guess what I am trying to say is I will function as the test case for the tire and after I have had a couple of weeks to try them I will tell the board what I think of them good, bad or indifferent. I was not looking for the best mud tire and I don't expect these to be much different than the other all around tires in that area. Will report back in mid June. If anyone has some experience with them or questions let us know. Thanks