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#3
Originally posted by: LILPUNKIN
i was wondering what is the fattest 400 the honda,suzuki,kawasaki,or arctic cat?
i was wondering what is the fattest 400 the honda,suzuki,kawasaki,or arctic cat?
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Originally posted by: DaveB
Maybe this is that NEW lingo......fattest=baddest=the shiznit......that kinda stuff. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Maybe this is that NEW lingo......fattest=baddest=the shiznit......that kinda stuff. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
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#8
I have no idea.
Just a couple "sour" notes I have regarding the Artic Cats.
We purchased (2) 400's Nov., 2004. Wanted to "buy American" (we previously had 2 Honda Big Reds & loved them).
Not particularly pleased with the quality control or the manuals of Artic Cat. Also, although you may have to go through a dealer for customer service with other ATV's it's still lousy. Our dealer is no longer a dealer. They have no customer service as such at Artic Cat, you leave a message and someone will get back to you sometime. The receptionist can't tell you when, it could be that day, next week, next month or never.
Unfortunately, we haven't many hours on them, so I cannot give you a fair appraisal of the machines themselves. Ask me in a few months if I would buy them again. Right now I would say "no" based on the experience with quality and customer service.
As I said, "sour" notes. We may just be a little more picky than others or maybe in the minority.
Quality control and customer service in every industry leaves a lot to be desired. There are a few exceptions, but try and find them.
Just a couple "sour" notes I have regarding the Artic Cats.
We purchased (2) 400's Nov., 2004. Wanted to "buy American" (we previously had 2 Honda Big Reds & loved them).
Not particularly pleased with the quality control or the manuals of Artic Cat. Also, although you may have to go through a dealer for customer service with other ATV's it's still lousy. Our dealer is no longer a dealer. They have no customer service as such at Artic Cat, you leave a message and someone will get back to you sometime. The receptionist can't tell you when, it could be that day, next week, next month or never.
Unfortunately, we haven't many hours on them, so I cannot give you a fair appraisal of the machines themselves. Ask me in a few months if I would buy them again. Right now I would say "no" based on the experience with quality and customer service.
As I said, "sour" notes. We may just be a little more picky than others or maybe in the minority.
Quality control and customer service in every industry leaves a lot to be desired. There are a few exceptions, but try and find them.
#9
Originally posted by: polarpigmn
I have no idea.
Just a couple "sour" notes I have regarding the Artic Cats.
We purchased (2) 400's Nov., 2004. Wanted to "buy American" (we previously had 2 Honda Big Reds & loved them).
Not particularly pleased with the quality control or the manuals of Artic Cat. Also, although you may have to go through a dealer for customer service with other ATV's it's still lousy. Our dealer is no longer a dealer. They have no customer service as such at Artic Cat, you leave a message and someone will get back to you sometime. The receptionist can't tell you when, it could be that day, next week, next month or never.
Unfortunately, we haven't many hours on them, so I cannot give you a fair appraisal of the machines themselves. Ask me in a few months if I would buy them again. Right now I would say "no" based on the experience with quality and customer service.
As I said, "sour" notes. We may just be a little more picky than others or maybe in the minority.
Quality control and customer service in every industry leaves a lot to be desired. There are a few exceptions, but try and find them.
I have no idea.
Just a couple "sour" notes I have regarding the Artic Cats.
We purchased (2) 400's Nov., 2004. Wanted to "buy American" (we previously had 2 Honda Big Reds & loved them).
Not particularly pleased with the quality control or the manuals of Artic Cat. Also, although you may have to go through a dealer for customer service with other ATV's it's still lousy. Our dealer is no longer a dealer. They have no customer service as such at Artic Cat, you leave a message and someone will get back to you sometime. The receptionist can't tell you when, it could be that day, next week, next month or never.
Unfortunately, we haven't many hours on them, so I cannot give you a fair appraisal of the machines themselves. Ask me in a few months if I would buy them again. Right now I would say "no" based on the experience with quality and customer service.
As I said, "sour" notes. We may just be a little more picky than others or maybe in the minority.
Quality control and customer service in every industry leaves a lot to be desired. There are a few exceptions, but try and find them.
#10
Hmmm, a nit picker and a sensitive one at that. Sorry, was in a hurry and didn't spell check.
You are right - we didn't do enough research. The looks and features of the machine appealed to us. We never considered the Manufacturer or manual issue.
The dealer was not an issue, he was very cooperative and filed all paperwork accordingly. "If you had choosen (I believe it should be chosen) a good dealer----". Note: I will not get into a spelling or grammatical discussion with you, but just couldn't resist.
Quality control? How about a wheel obviously factory marked as defective still being put on a machine and shipped to the dealer. The dealer replaced it with no problem. There were a few minor, but obvious problems that should not have gotten past quality, but we took care of those ourselves.
Manual? By the way, I'm speaking of the owner's manual, not the service manual, which we haven't even gotten into yet.
Of course a mechanic of 25+ years should have no problems. How about the person who has little or no mechanical ability? Should they hire someone, or perhaps just not purchase a machine that will at sometime require regular service and upkeep because they don't understand the written instructions or the pictures aren't clear or large enough to provide a visual explanation. (I'm sure this is typical of many manuals, not only of AC).
Pictures are too small and of too poor a quality to determine what they are trying to show regarding the written description.
With the graphic software available today, there is no reason quality grapics couldn't be used. A Polaroid picture just doesn't cut it. Written descriptions are sometimes vague. Of course, the bottom line is probably cost, not the consumer. My feelings regarding all product manuals is that a novice(s) should review them with the product.
My husband was a machine designer, involved with both manuals and quality issues for his designs, so we are not inept or stupid.
The issue of buying AC again rests not only on the machine performance, but that of the company.
I did state that we had not been able to put many hours on them, but have had no problems as yet.
The basis of my comments is to advise people to look beyond the dealer and the machine.
You are right - we didn't do enough research. The looks and features of the machine appealed to us. We never considered the Manufacturer or manual issue.
The dealer was not an issue, he was very cooperative and filed all paperwork accordingly. "If you had choosen (I believe it should be chosen) a good dealer----". Note: I will not get into a spelling or grammatical discussion with you, but just couldn't resist.
Quality control? How about a wheel obviously factory marked as defective still being put on a machine and shipped to the dealer. The dealer replaced it with no problem. There were a few minor, but obvious problems that should not have gotten past quality, but we took care of those ourselves.
Manual? By the way, I'm speaking of the owner's manual, not the service manual, which we haven't even gotten into yet.
Of course a mechanic of 25+ years should have no problems. How about the person who has little or no mechanical ability? Should they hire someone, or perhaps just not purchase a machine that will at sometime require regular service and upkeep because they don't understand the written instructions or the pictures aren't clear or large enough to provide a visual explanation. (I'm sure this is typical of many manuals, not only of AC).
Pictures are too small and of too poor a quality to determine what they are trying to show regarding the written description.
With the graphic software available today, there is no reason quality grapics couldn't be used. A Polaroid picture just doesn't cut it. Written descriptions are sometimes vague. Of course, the bottom line is probably cost, not the consumer. My feelings regarding all product manuals is that a novice(s) should review them with the product.
My husband was a machine designer, involved with both manuals and quality issues for his designs, so we are not inept or stupid.
The issue of buying AC again rests not only on the machine performance, but that of the company.
I did state that we had not been able to put many hours on them, but have had no problems as yet.
The basis of my comments is to advise people to look beyond the dealer and the machine.


