I have a 250R with works shocks on the front and stock on the rear. I am thinking about sending them ot Legacy ATV, in order to get them converted to TCS's SCS. Has anyone had there shocks converted and if they were done by Legacy were you satisified with their work.

 

I had my front works converted through K&K to the TCS. I forgot the the price, but it was before the recent increase.

But I wanted to let you know on the rear. I had a Ohlins rear shock converted as well. But there was something that would allow the rear to get the two springs. I guess TCS was making the part to allow the travel for the two springs this year, so over the winter I will complete the rear. I was quoted $100 back when I had them done.

I also know that the 400ex rear shock was able to accept the two rear springs, but alot of work had to be done to them. I remember the stock 250R rear was also not able to get the "full" mod, just like my Ohlins. Call them up and ask, that is your best bet.

 

Lasher, I see that you have both a 250r and a banshee. My question is I plan on racing next season and I currently have a 99 Banshee, FMF Fatty pipes, Power Core 2, K&N, maier race plastic...From your experience what would you rather have for trail riding and MX. What all do I need to make my banshee MX ready? How much would it cost to get a stock 250r mx ready? Thanks alot.

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I have had both my front shocks and rear shock serviced by John at Legacy ATV. Im totally satisfied. He did both right at the track on seperate occasions. I have PEP limited mass, with cans. He practically had to rebuild the rear when he worked on it because the bumper and cross-over were trashed.

I have a question. You say you want them converted to TCS (Total Control Suspension)? Dont you mean ZPS (Zero Preload System)? Maybe Im out of the loop.

 

I am not sure if TCS makes any other shock set up other than the one I have. Also, I am not sure if they call it a "ZPS" shock. I think they call it a "SCS" or something. But from what I understand they work on the same principle. (I can see the follow up posts now.) The TCS will lower the ride height while not loosing travel.

The TCS are a cheaper version of the Axis. I think "ZPS" is for the PEP version only. But I have heard that the TCS are ZPS style shocks.

Either way, they seem to work great. I have only been on them a few times, but so far I am impressed. Then again, I have only tried the TCS on the 250R, from the start. The first time I rode A 250R it was mine with the shocks. So how much is the shocks, and how much is the 250R, I have no clue. Friends that have put the TCS on their 400ex's (from stock shocks) were able to give a better comparison. They stated the TCS were a huge improvement.

 

Last year I was in the same place you are now. Which one? My Banshee only had a Paul Turner pipe, Fat Boy silencer, K&N and Razrs all around. Other than that it was stock. I seriously thought about setting the Banshee up for MX, when the 250R landed on my lap. Decision was over.

Now my 250R is completely aftermarket except for the frame. Everything is for MX. So a stock to stock comparison is out of the question. But overall, I would prefer the 250R to the Banshee for trails or MX. Now don’t get me wrong, the Banshee is a great machine, and I did fairly well on the track with it. But my 250R just blows it away. Everywhere! (I don’t drag race other than the start of a race.)

As for the cost of setting the 250R up for MX? I got mine for 2 grand. It already had Leager +1 +1 A-arms and a Leager swingarm (bunch of other stuff). It needed a little work, but I went crazy. I basically stripped the quad to the frame and started replacing everything that could have been worn. Every seal or bearing. EVERYTHING! Got the TCS shocks, anti-vibe steering stem, powder coating, and new motor, basically the works! I have not officially added up the total cost (too scared) but I would say I dropped at least 3 to 4 grand into it after the initial cost.

The cost of modifying a stock 250R (or any quad) is all relative to what you are willing to put into it. Sometimes, it might be better to get a rolling chassis from one of the aftermarket guys, than to start buying parts. All depends on the starting point and your final goal. Pretty much if you have a stock 250R, then just go through the magazines and create a price list. Add on a bunch more money and there you have the total cost.

For your Banshee to get MX ready, again it depends on how far do you want to go. Shocks are a must. TCS are a great bang for the buck, while Axis are the best (I have heard.) You could also go with a set of A-arms. Probably +2 +1. But then you will need all the goodies that go with it. (Tie rods, brake lines, etc.) To match the front you will then need a wider axle. With those things, shocks, a-arms, axle you should improve the Banshee handling greatly. Also tires and rims. Radials in front and 8 inch rears. I think I priced the shocks, a-arms and axle roughly about 3 grand for the Banshee last year.

If you decide to go with the 250R way, there are many options. Rolling chassis, fixer upper, race ready…. But it will cost either way.