400ex vs. 450r handling.
#1
Hey. I'm a somewhat un-proud 300ex owner that just got back from a trip. I was sitting under my bike screwing with the chain when a guy I talked to earlier came up to me and asked if I wanted to ride his yfz 450. At first, I didn't think he was talking to me, but I took him up on the offer after my brain figured out what was going on. He pretty much wouldn't let me get off of it, so I started screwing around. I did about 85 with one hand (the other was busy holding my helmet straight) and launched it about 5 feet into the air, and landed flat. upon landing, I realized that I was missing alot. My 300 would have slammed and bent another set of A's and rounded out another couple shock bushings, and i could barely tell i had landed on the yfz. My question is this. Is the 400ex suspension close to/as good as the 450r. I don't really need the power (for that type of money) and really need to move up. Will I notice a HUGE IMPROVEMENT over the 300, or do I need to move to a more impressive model for that. Any and all comments welcome.
#2
LOL, the 400EX is pretty good, but definately not on par with a 450 suspensionwise. Of course, you can upgrade the suspension on your 300 for less than getting even the 400. If finances dictate and you want to stay Honda, get the 400. If you do any amount of really slow riding, get the 400. Otherwise splurge on the 450.
#3
My 400EX has aftermarket suspension, and it goes through the big whoops like a dream. My 450R has stock suspension, and it is even better than the EX! I have an 04, but the 06/07's have stiffer springs. All by buddies with 06's have resprung theirs.
One huge thing to consider though, is the type of riding you do. If it is mostly slower trails, you are way better off on the EX. It will lug down and doesn't mind being ridden slowly. The R on the other hand needs to go fast. It is geared tall and likes to run, so it is better for faster, more open trails or wide open country.
One huge thing to consider though, is the type of riding you do. If it is mostly slower trails, you are way better off on the EX. It will lug down and doesn't mind being ridden slowly. The R on the other hand needs to go fast. It is geared tall and likes to run, so it is better for faster, more open trails or wide open country.
#4
Originally posted by: reconranger
One huge thing to consider though, is the type of riding you do. If it is mostly slower trails, you are way better off on the EX. It will lug down and doesn't mind being ridden slowly. The R on the other hand needs to go fast. It is geared tall and likes to run, so it is better for faster, more open trails or wide open country.
One huge thing to consider though, is the type of riding you do. If it is mostly slower trails, you are way better off on the EX. It will lug down and doesn't mind being ridden slowly. The R on the other hand needs to go fast. It is geared tall and likes to run, so it is better for faster, more open trails or wide open country.
#5
Interesting. I do alot of trail riding with my family (very agressive/technichal, not wide-open fast) and I also really like hitting the track, and if I might say, I'm more than decent. For me, price wouldn't be a factor for getting a 400, because I'd sell my PERFECT 05' 300ex with 2.5+ yrs left on a $0 deductable warranty for about $3500. I should be able to get a '01-ish 400ex for about $1800 (barely running) and have 2200 to spend on fixing/rebuilding/upgrades. (This includes 500 dollars that I have saved up to start with) However, beat up 450's seem to hang out in the $4000 range, so I'd have to mow some serious lawn for that. Also (frugal gurus unite!) I've heard that the 450R front shocks fit the 400ex. Is this true?
#7
Originally posted by: JimmyHoffa
Ok. Help. Just one person tell me wether or not they fit.
Ok. Help. Just one person tell me wether or not they fit.
I will not take the 450 into the trails and wouldn't take my 400 to the dunes. It really depends on where you likle to ride.
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#8
One thing to consider before you sell your 300ex, you have a practically new 300ex that isn't going to give you any troubles and you can ride it whenever you want. You buy an older beat up quad, you're more than likely going to have problems with it and you might be fixing it more than riding it. I've been riding for 17 years, and I finally have learned that riding a less performing machine is much more fun than sitting back at camp or in the garage with a more powerfull machine. And in the woods, a 300ex will do anything any other quad will do.
#10
That's good to know. TractorPacker-Are the 450r shocks on a 400ex as good as a 400ex with works? Worth the price difference? I just put a new fiber disk on my angle grinder and fired up the MIG for a test bead to make sure I was ready [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]. Just to let you know, I'm really grateful for your insight and am taking all of this to heart. When motox26 said he'd been riding for 17 years, it occured to me that's how long I've been alive. I've pretty much decided to get a 400ex, and overhaul it. (I'm not too worried about reliability because of my experience with engines. I'll do her right.


