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Old May 31, 2007 | 02:23 AM
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any one how to test coil on 05 400 auto? also what connection is ground?
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 03:37 AM
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: bcsnowdog

any one how to test coil on 05 400 auto? also what connection is ground?</end quote></div>

Lead (red) is on the left, ground (black) is on the right, .

IGNITION:

Ignition Coil
The ignition coil is on the left-side frame above the
engine. To access the coil, the left-side panel must be removed.
RESISTANCE
NOTE: For these tests, the meter selector should
be set to the OHMS position and the primary
wire(s) should be disconnected.

Primary Winding
1. Connect the red tester lead to either terminal;
then connect the black tester lead to the other
terminal or on 500 models, to a suitable ground.
2. The meter reading must be within specification.
! CAUTION
Always disconnect the battery when performing
resistance tests to avoid damaging the multimeter.

Secondary Winding
1. Remove the plug cap from the high tension lead;
then connect the red tester lead to the high tension
lead.
2. On the 400/650 H1/650 V-Twin, connect the
black tester lead to either primary connector; on
the 500, connect the black tester lead to the coil
frame or to the primary connector.
3. The meter reading must be within specification.
NOTE: If the meter does not show as specified,
replace ignition coil.

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SPEC's

Ignition Coil
Resistance
(primary) - Less than 1 ohm (terminal to ground)
(secondary) - 5200 to 7800 ohms (high tension - plug cap removed - to ground)

Ignition Coil Peak
Voltage
(primary/CDI) - 250-375 volts (terminal to ground)

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MAGNETO:

Magneto Coils
(400/500/650 H1)
VOLTAGE (Stator Coil - Regulated
Output)
1. Set the meter selector to the DC Voltage position.
2. Connect the red tester lead to the positive battery
post; then connect the black tester lead to
the negative battery post.
3. With the engine running at a constant 5000 RPM
(with the headlights on), the meter must show
14-15.5 DC volts.
NOTE: If voltage is lower than specified, test stator
coil - no load.

VOLTAGE
(Stator Coil - No Load)
The connector is the black and white one on the
right side of the engine just above the brake cable
adjuster.
NOTE: Test the connector that comes from the
engine.
1. Set the meter selector to the AC Voltage position.
2. Test between the three black wires for a total of
three tests.
3. With the engine running at the specified RPM,
all wire tests must show 60 A.C. volts.
NOTE: If both stator coil tests failed, check all
connections, etc., and test again. If no voltage is
present, replace the stator assembly.

RESISTANCE (Stator Coil)
1. Set the meter selector to OHMS position.
2. Test between the three black wires for a total of
three tests.
3. The meter reading must be within specification.

RESISTANCE (Trigger Coil)
1. Set the meter selector to the OHMS position.
2. Connect the red tester lead to the green wire;
then connect the black tester lead to the blue
wire. The meter reading must be within specification.

RESISTANCE
(Source Coil)
1. Set the meter selector to the OHMS position.
2. Connect the red tester lead to the yellow wire;
then connect the black tester lead to the white
wire.
3. The meter reading must be within specification.
NOTE: If the meter shows other than specified in
any resistance test, replace the stator assembly.

PEAK VOLTAGE (400)
NOTE: All of the peak voltage tests should be
made using the Fluke Model 73 Multimeter (p/n) with Peak Voltage Reading Adapter (p/n). If any other type of tester is used, readings
may vary due to internal circuitry.
! CAUTION
Do not run the engine at high RPM for more than 10
seconds.
! CAUTION
Do not run the engine at high RPM for more than 10
seconds.
! CAUTION
Always disconnect the battery when performing
resistance tests to avoid damaging the multimeter.
! CAUTION
Always disconnect the battery when performing
resistance tests to avoid damaging the multimeter.
NOTE: The battery must be at full charge for
these tests.

Magneto Coil (Trigger)
1. Set the meter selector to the DC Voltage position.
2. Connect the red tester lead to the green wire;
then connect the black tester lead to the blue
wire.
3. Crank the engine over using the electric starter.
4. The meter reading must be within specification.

Magneto Coil (Source)
1. Set the meter selector to the DC Voltage position.
2. Connect the red tester lead to the yellow wire;
then connect the black tester lead to the white
wire.
3. Crank the engine over using the electric starter.
4. The meter reading must be within specification.

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SPEC's

Magneto Coil
Resistance
(trigger) - 160-240 ohms (green to blue)
(source) - Less than 1 ohm (yellow to white)
(charging) - Less than 1 ohm (black to black)

Magneto Coil
Peak Voltage
(trigger) - 5.04-7.56 volts (green to blue)
(source) - 0.7-1.05 volts (yellow to white)

Stator Coil Output - (no load) 60 AC volts @ 5000 RPM (black to black #1) (black to black #2)

Magneto Output - (approx) 220W @ 5000 RPM

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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 03:16 AM
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WOW now thats an answer! the coil has big and small connector which is ground? this bike starts and idles but will not rev up,checked valves,cleaned carb,drained fuel,once in a while it will normal when cold for maybe 5-10 minutes then crap out and just idle.thanks for help
 
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: bcsnowdog

WOW now thats an answer! the coil has big and small connector which is ground? this bike starts and idles but will not rev up,checked valves,cleaned carb,drained fuel,once in a while it will normal when cold for maybe 5-10 minutes then crap out and just idle.thanks for help</end quote></div>

Ground is on the right or you can use a suitable frame ground.

This is what I could find in the book. One or more situations may fix it (example: maybe the sparkplug gap is too narrow or the float too low - could be one or both, could be something else). Loosen your gas cap it that helps then the vent hose is obstructed.
This is a list for you to have a 'look see'

Problem: Medium or high speed impaired
Condition Remedy
1. High RPM "cut out" against RPM limiter 1. Shift into higher gear - decrease RPM speed
2. Main jet obstructed 2. Clean main jet
3. Needle jet obstructed 3. Clean needle jet
4. Throttle vacuum piston not operating properly 4. Check piston operation
5. Filter obstructed 5. Clean filter
6. Float height incorrect 6. Adjust float height
7. Starter valve not fully closed 7. Adjust valve

Problem: Engine stalls easily
Condition Remedy
1. Spark plug fouled 1. Clean plug
2. Magneto defective 2. Replace magneto
3. CDI unit defective 3. Replace CDI unit
4. Carburetor jets obstructed 4. Clean jets
5. Valve clearance out of adjustment 5. Adjust clearance

Problem: Engine runs poorly at high speed
Condition Remedy
1. High RPM "cut out" against RPM limiter 1. Shift into higher gear - decrease speed
2. Valve springs weak 2. Replace springs
3. Valve timing out of adjustment 3. Adjust timing
4. Cams - rocker arms worn 4. Replace cams - arms
5. Spark plug gap too narrow 5. Adjust gap
6. Ignition coil defective 6. Replace ignition oil
7. Float level too low 7. Adjust float height
8. Air cleaner element obstructed 8. Clean element
9. Fuel hose obstructed 9. Clean - prime hose
 
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 03:52 AM
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i'm thinking cdi or coil is there a test for cdi?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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Primary/CDI
NOTE: The CDI is located beneath the seat and
fender panel near the battery.
1. Set the meter selector to the DC Voltage position;
then disconnect the blue/white primary
wire from the coil.
2. Connect the red tester lead to the primary wire;
then connect the black tester lead to ground.
3. Crank the engine over using the electric starter.
4. The meter reading must be within specification.

250-375 volts
terminal to ground)
 
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 05:36 AM
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Here is a link for a shop manual, could be of some use to you.

http://silentfall.com/files/manual.zip
 
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Originally Posted by buckaroo50
Here is a link for a shop manual, could be of some use to you.

http://silentfall.com/files/manual.zip
do you have a link to shop manual
 
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